Mdkns [#6]VK Cheated get over it.
They would have won without the cheats. Idc about VK but acend should not be where it is today
tetris69 [#4]deeply, eu know that, but they don't wanna admit
deeply brazil knows that they are bad but keep clinging into 1 upset match because that was their only achievement this whole tournament
TractorBrrr [#9]They would have won without the cheats. Idc about VK but acend should not be where it is today
wdym "should not" is there someone deciding who should be there,they won the teams they played against and thats why they are there
aaa420 [#13]wdym "should not" is there someone deciding who should be there,they won the teams they played against and thats why they are there
is there someone deciding who should be there
Riot obviously made the decision to give acend 9-0 so idk.
Also, it's not very hard to accept that acend should have definitely lost that match, while still agreeing that Riot's decision was fair.
ONE THING IS CERTAIN, AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE, YOU ARE A BRAZIL HATER
VK is probably between the 5 best teams in this tourney. Their performances against Acend prove that.
The team is pretty young though, and the punishment and all these issues affected them mentally. No one played well against X10, that had efficient well-prepared strategies to beat VK
0vertaker [#21]ONE THING IS CERTAIN, AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE, YOU ARE A BRAZIL HATER
VK is probably between the 5 best teams in this tourney. Their performances against Acend prove that.
The team is pretty young though, and the punishment and all these issues affected them mentally. No one played well against X10, that had efficient well-prepared strategies to beat VK
Ratio plus x10 shit on VK so sit.
yuzukaze [#18]Some people just want to be Upset...
vk cheated and got punished for itthis didn't help Acend to win against ENVY, Secret and Liquid
If vk didn't cheat they would have won, acend to lower bracket where they could get eliminated.
So yes, it did help Acend be where it is today
0vertaker [#21]ONE THING IS CERTAIN, AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE, YOU ARE A BRAZIL HATER
VK is probably between the 5 best teams in this tourney. Their performances against Acend prove that.
The team is pretty young though, and the punishment and all these issues affected them mentally. No one played well against X10, that had efficient well-prepared strategies to beat VK
VK 5 Top Team ??
Then X10 is top 4 No capp
TractorBrrr [#17]is there someone deciding who should be there
Riot obviously made the decision to give acend 9-0 so idk.
Also, it's not very hard to accept that acend should have definitely lost that match, while still agreeing that Riot's decision was fair.
first it was 7-0 not 9-0 and they gave they abused it 6 rounds and they counted economic difference in to that,they were about to get disqualified or had to forfeit the match,the fact that they got a rematch was already more than generous from riot
WONDERWEISS [#22]Why would it matter if Acend would have lost to VK? They would just continue from Lower Bracket. It is not like they are scared of any Team.
If they went to lower bracket, they'll probably have to face VK again, because it's unlikely vk would've gone lossless.
The only team acend had trouble against was vk, maybe because of comp/strats etc. So they could have been eliminated surely
sank3tsu [#5]he is right tho , but acend looks way better now
There were also lower bracket how can he right?
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#23]shut the fuck up.. vk werent guaranteed to win breeze without that advantage and even when you count the rounds of acend vs vk and exclude the advantage acend got, acend had more rounds than vk that series..
Why compare whole series? Map 3 was breeze that's what matters
TractorBrrr [#28]If they went to lower bracket, they'll probably have to face VK again, because it's unlikely vk would've gone lossless.
The only team acend had trouble against was vk, maybe because of comp/strats etc. So they could have been eliminated surely
Can't tell how VK would perform on other Maps. Only remember them playing Breeze and Icebox somehow.
aaa420 [#27]first it was 7-0 not 9-0 and they gave they abused it 6 rounds and they counted economic difference in to that,they were about to get disqualified or had to forfeit the match,the fact that they got a rematch was already more than generous from riot
Read my reply again
TractorBrrr [#25]If vk didn't cheat they would have won, acend to lower bracket where they could get eliminated.
So yes, it did help Acend be where it is today
or they win from lower bracket?
what i meant was Acend won against teams that would Clap VK any time
yuzukaze [#34]or they win from lower bracket?
what i meant was Acend won against teams that would Clap VK any time
Yes vk would probably lose the next match so they'll face acend in lower bracket again, in which case we can't rule out that they can lose again.
(Maybe vk's comp/strats were great anti for acend)
Even if they win, they'll be differently seeded in playoffs when they qualify from lower bracket anyway
TractorBrrr [#30]Why compare whole series? Map 3 was breeze that's what matters
You said "would have won even without the exploit"
Do you have brain worms? You are saying they would've won Breeze, but without the advantage, the map state rounds wise would've been 10-6. 10-6 does not win you the map??
And you are ignoring the larger context of the series, which was dominant for Acend round differential wise.
TractorBrrr [#33]Read my reply again
yeah,and it doesnt matter if vk 13-0 them,if they lost they dont deserve to be there,there is not such thing,they both agreed to rematch and they lost
tonyhart7 [#26]VK 5 Top Team ??
Then X10 is top 4 No capp
I think it's difficul to explain, that not necessarily the best team always wins dude
VK players were clearly affected mentally, no one could play well. Or do you really think that X10 won against the same VK that played against Acend?
ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8 [#37]You said "would have won even without the exploit"
Do you have brain worms? You are saying they would've won Breeze, but without the advantage, the map state rounds wise would've been 10-6. 10-6 does not win you the map??
And you are ignoring the larger context of the series, which was dominant for Acend round differential wise.
This tells me you didn't watch the game so can't argue with brain dead crowd follower sorry
Okay so if brazilians say they could win without the cam exploit, then why use It and later complain about the 7 advantage rounds? I mean VK get lucky that they didnt have to ff or even get eliminated. And btw its not the first time that camera is penalized and VK had more advantages than Giants or X10 when they used it.
So tbf: STOP COMPLAINING!!!
TractorBrrr [#40]This tells me you didn't watch the game so can't argue with brain dead crowd follower sorry
Ok so your argument is Acend don't deserve to win the tournament, because you FEEL Vivo Keyd was better after watching their match? No substance whatsoever?
Good to know Acend 2-0'ing Envy and Liquid doesn't matter. Good to know Vivo Keyd getting 2-0'd by X10 doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that Vivo Keyd would've won the series if you let them cheat.
feaN [#41]They cheated, we saw them how they perform without cheats..getting stomped by both Acend and X10. Cry is free
stomped by both acend
Kkkkkkk barely won even with 7-0 advantage
GiancioZ [#42]Okay so if brazilians say they could win without the cam exploit, then why use It and later complain about the 7 advantage rounds? I mean VK get lucky that they didnt have to ff or even get eliminated. And btw its not the first time that camera is penalized and VK had more advantages than Giants or X10 when they used it.
So tbf: STOP COMPLAINING!!!
Yes vk was stupid to use the exploit, idk why they did it. But if u see the rounds in which they used the cam, you'd see that it didn't give them any advantage whatsoever.
My point in initial thread was that acend deserved to lose to vk
TractorBrrr [#45]stomped by both acend
Kkkkkkk barely won even with 7-0 advantage
Stfu fake flagger go home Brazilians shit vk cheated they lost X10.
If you have any knowledge guild and gaint also got punished so stfu and go bait some where else you shit fuker
TractorBrrr [#46]Yes vk was stupid to use the exploit, idk why they did it. But if u see the rounds in which they used the cam, you'd see that it didn't give them any advantage whatsoever.
My point in initial thread was that acend deserved to lose to vk
Can you please stfu or I need to tell your mom to put tape on your hands?
Qwerty69 [#47]Stfu fake flagger go home Brazilians shit vk cheated they lost X10.
If you have any knowledge guild and gaint also got punished so stfu and go bait some where else you shit fuker
Flair checks out at least lul
TractorBrrr [#25]If vk didn't cheat they would have won, acend to lower bracket where they could get eliminated.
So yes, it did help Acend be where it is today
well maybe dont use bugs next time?
RickyIndian [#52]you literally copied my fucking post
NA brain can't come up with anything original kkkkkkk
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