saying that everyone hates him is victimizing himself at the max which is so ironic considering he's flamed publicly in the past (c9 oxy) obviously one of your previously benched players is gonna shit talk after 0-2ing you, thats not hate, thats jus the pro scene which fns should be familiar w by now bc hes been here so long. nobody "hates" him, yes its a meme to call him bad but at the root of it its nrg fans that are disappointed in his consistently bad performance. this type of energy from an igl won't help the team mental at all. fns needs to just keep his head above water and play for his fans instead of trying to prove something to his "haters", he'll never perform if he focuses on the negativity.
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people =/= everyone.
when he flames he's way more satirical about it, hes putting on a show for his stream which is somewhat understandable - yeah its stupid considering he was just watching from the sidelines while criticising people who actually play the game
im not tryna defend him but his mental can only be so strong when literally everyone is talking down on him.
i agree with ur last sentence
this whole verno situation is so odd to me because I truly wonder what NRG actually should have done in this situation
there was clearly some problem with verno (nobody knows what, just that there was one), and you're given the choice between losing your igl and controller in their last season, or your cracked rookie and coach, but neither would make the fans happy at all, and a whole rebrand would have fucked the team either way
obviously i'm biased because i'm an nrg fan, but it just seems unlucky to a sense, because I can't imagine a situation where it isn't just a lose-lose
They tried to be transparent to their fans about kicking Verno out of the team but it only sounded like: we lost and the fault is on this kid that doesnt talk and has bad comms, the decision was UNANIMOUS
They ruined his reputation and the whole community was meme'ing him, but like, the meme was that he is a bad teammate and doesnt talk. For esports, where reputation and network matters a lot, I wonder what would've happened to his career if the MIBR opportunity didnt show up.
I prefer to believe that it wasnt their intention to try to ruin his career but they could have been more sensible about it. If they just dropped him and released a "we didnt mesh well together, good luck further" and nothing else, it would've already been better than 3/4 depressed popular VCT dudes passive agressively portraying him as bad teammate for the whole community
yeah I absolutely agree with you, and the interview they released where he just seems like an egotistical shithead was completely unnecessary, especially since we know that, at that point in the timeline, there were already internal issues in the team
i remember seeing a tanmay post where he mentions that like 9-10 current tier 1 pros in NA literally hate verno because of his attitude, so I don't doubt that nrg had at least SOME reason to drop him, but it felt like they were trying to do too much damage control
this team was never going to succeed anyways after dropping verno, they literally just don't have the pieces, and it doesn't help that verno went nuclear against nrg yesterday, but i can't help but think that there was literally nothing they could have done to prevent this failure, except maybe actually trialing verno instead of just flat out picking him up because of how he looked in tier 2
I agree with this take. I would also like to add that although he likely wasn't as bad of a teammate as they made him out to be, his behavior in the match yesterday is still painting him in a worse light for me.
At least on icebox, calling them shit, bad players, bots after every round - most people will call that standard banter, but that's just immaturity coming to the forefront.
You're an adult. Grow up and prove you're not a toxic teenager to the world. He opted to do the exact opposite.
Giving Draymond Green vibes
This take is ass.
He had a revenge game against his former team that threw him under the bus and left him out to dry. It was his time to prove them wrong, and he proved them wrong.
The "toxicity" you refer to happens in any sport when a player leaves a team on bad terms. They'll talk shit to the bench, do different celly's, etc.
Not sure how this makes Verno toxic? He had every reason to. And it's not like this is a recurring behavior against every team lol.
I agree that #7's take is awful but I think you're being a little disingenuous, saying that he had to prove them wrong is odd, we don't know what the issues with him were on nrg, there isn't really anything for him to prove, at least from an outside perspective
but it was cinema so i'm not complaining
I get what you mean but I feel like I don't really need to know all the internal details.
At the end of the day, this caused massive drama, and everyone on the roster shit-talked him afterwards and made him the scapegoat.
Maybe my "prove them wrong" wasn't the best way to put it, but he at least had a reason to try harder.
It has nothing to do with egos. Although it may not be a traditional sport, it involves actively competing against other people. These kinds of matches involve emotions and stakes.
The "cream of the crops" in sports all actively talk shit or have lost their cool in games/matches before. Jordan, Lebron, Brady, Ronaldo, Messi.
All I'm hearing from this argument is that you have never played a sport or competed for anything. And even if you did, you didn't care for it.
I agree. But there's a difference between shit talk and behing unhinged.
Salaried in CS:GO 2017-2018. Founded my colleges VALORANT team in 2021, played until graduation in 2022, coaching since then, just got back from 2 LANs.
I have competed.
We are allowed to have different perspective and respectfully disagree.
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