"you need a fragging igl"

the title is a super popular opinion on vlr these days but i still dont agree
when people say this they will point to 2024 onwards and how every winning team had an igl capable of shooting (johnqt, munchkin, nobody, stax)
saying that a team needs a fragging igl is almost the same as saying that you need all 5 players to be strong shooters, but that has not been true for 2024 onwards

• sentinels won madrid with zellsis (widely regarded as a poor shooter)
• gen g won shanghai with lakia (widely regarded as a poor shooter)
• edg won champions with s1mon and nobody (nobody is definitely a capable fragger but him and s1mon each hovered around ~.9 k/d in champs and still won)

t1 is the first example of a modern trophy winning team with 5 players without a clear typical bottom fragger

my main point point is that i believe that this phenomenon of fragging igls winning trophies is just a coincidence, because i dont think its a big difference whether its your igl or midrounder flex who lacks some firepower, as you effectively get the same final result where u have 4 strong shooters

i will say that a team with both fns and ethan at one time is going to be really tough to pull off, but thats not because you have an igl who cant frag out, its more so because you have 2 players anchoring your firepower

i think its due to the meta change. game is way more aggressive right now which favors fast executes rather than defaulting. prior to 2024 rounds were played very slow (especially during chamber meta)

you dont need a fragging igl, but since im assuming this is about FNS, having diamond mechanics =/= being a non fragging igl.

you need to atleast be somewhat competent and not a deadweight

and to add all of T1 went negative in the GF

Highkey if u are outcalling the enemy team and have the control over the game then it will be easier to frag and kill people(if you have decent enough mechanics and not dia/ascendant level)

so what you’re saying is we need zellsis gone

Someone changed my mind recently, where your "worst" fragger has to be on init/flex. If your worst fragger is a senti player, I don't think you can win especially with how hard exec this game is now. Your worst fraggers have to be "with the pack" players with a strong lurker to make it work. I think this is supported by all the teams who won

sen: johnqt (senti) - zellsis/sacy (flex and init)
geng: meteor (senti) - lakia (flex and init)
EDG: chichoo (senti) - simon (flex and init)
T1: meteor (senti) - stax (flex and init)

It’s also illogical dating back to Lock In (when the narrative started getting popular), only EG has won an international with a player not being in b10 KPR. So even if you want to consider them mechanical each team has a player who didn’t frag and focused on calling/util. Reason it looks so bad for NRG is because it’s just usually not the senti(even though the biggest problem today was ethan going 6-20)

deadass ppl who say that are plats thinking they know everything abt the game