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Do you need Whey Protein to Grow Muscles?

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#1
Bhrubby

10 months going into gym now. I go about 2 to 3 times a week and trying to progressively overload bit by bit but changes are minimal. Should I start whey protein after workout or creatine maybe?

For context I work at night so I go to the gym before work at like 8 pm. I also do push, pull, legs split (legs only once a week since I got huge calves alr)

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MrBlooBloom
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You only need to take protein powder if you cannot consume enough protein through your "normal" alimentation. When you're trying to gain muscle at some point you have to take some bc it's way to difficult (and expensive) otherwise. Creatine and protein don't have the same effect nor do they serve the same objectives at all. From what you're saying you might have to increase your daily protein intake, but keep in mind that 10 months at the gym is not a lot, especially considering the fact that you go gym 2/3 times a week. It's very hard to say without much details or pictures, but I can definitely tell you that there is no use taking creatine in your case. The most important thing is to have a healthy alimentation, and to make sure that your macros are adapted to what you need and that you exercise properly in every aspect possible

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SomeOne__val
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Very true, but creatine is not harmful, so may aswell take it and try.

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Siigma777
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creatine just helps get more water into your muscles and retain that. Only negative is cost if you don't want to buy it. I take it post workout cause it also helps with recovery. I wouldn't say there's no use in it but it isn't nearly as important as protein.

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Sidyon
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Creatine is also good to take for just daily use since it helps cognitive function and slows down the rate at which your brain slows down

#25
m4
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It also has a random loot box chance to spawn mental illness.

#3
zhongZHI
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remember guys. if u dont see gains after the first day. start blasting anabolic steroids

#4
Tacitus
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go 5 days a week, add creatine and lots of water, and eat lots of chicken, fish, dairy protein, and whey protein is optional in my opinion

#6
Kurkure
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Yeah if ur consuming enough protein through whole foods, it is the best option. Although consuming whey is still not bad.

#5
zhongZHI
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more curious everyone please say ur weight and ur bench replying below. bench first then weight. mucho appreciated optional put time since going gym and starting bench.
mine:
starting 8 weeks ago
70kgs
42.5 -> 60 kg
i go once a week

#7
zhongZHI
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fellas? its lonely here

#8
stargaz9r
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i focus more on working sets than I do for PRs. I only attempt PRs if I really feel up to it.
started around 14 months ago?
Weight: 78.5kg
PB Bench: 85kg.
Tbh, that isn't even that bad, considering I was barely able to bench the bar when I first started.

#20
Siigma777
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I've got my freedom units
Weight: 170 ibs
PB Bench: 250 ibs

I lift a decent amount but focus on running more so I don't keep weight on

#9
Bigfish
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started 10 months ago
weight: 60 kg (was 50kg)
bench: 30-> 65kg (i bench for reps never tried 1rm)

#10
1One1
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Just eat steamed chicken breast with some spice as seasoning

#11
loapoarg
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Start with eggs meat and low fat milk do it for a month if body is not responding go for creatine and same routine
Even then you dont see changes after months then go for whey

Rest is the most important part of body building and exercise
Sleep 8-10 hrs a day

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Swerl
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started going start of 2024, injured my shoulder stopped for 6 months started going again 2-3 months ago

weight 75kg
bench pb - 65x4 incline

lots of protein lots of carbs, try stay a little above ur maintenance

keep ur rep ranges at 4-6, making sure after each set u have like 2 reps left in the tank and on ur last set try push it out - i saw a huge change once i went from normal 8-12 reps to 4-6,

after 10 months of consistent conditioning you may need to add more volume into ur workout, try hitting each muscle group 2 times a week

i do push pull legs push pull rest rest

creatine is good just have it consistently, dont need to do a loading phase just take 3-5grams every day forever and you'll start to notice some tings in 20-40 days - if you cant eat enough sneak in a protein shake as a snack inbetween meals

there is no such thing as anabolic window, eat before you workout so you have energy, eat after u workout so ur body can have more energy for the day or if gyming at night, have a portein shake and go to sleep :3

#18
Jarvuy
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4-6 rep range is bullshit

#22
Swerl
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6-8 reps, if your 4-5th rep isnt hard then ur not pushing enough weight

pushing heavier weight for 6-8 reps for 3-4sets has the same value as pushing lighter weight for 8-12 reps for 3-4 sets and its less fatiguing on your system allowing you to push more weight longer

theres plenty of new studies about this, 8-12 reps is a thing of the past big bro

#13
Yistyy
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You should already be consuming lots of protein in your diet. Whey protein is just an extra source of protein to make it easier to hit your daily protein goals. A good rule of thumb is to consume about 0.7 grams * your body weight in lb, and whatever the product is should be your daily intake goal in grams.

Creatine though, is the magic powder that I think you're looking for. Take 5 grams a day with plenty of water. This stuff will actually help you gain muscle. Whey protein is just for making it easier to eat enough protein everyday.

#14
SomeOne__val
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Weigh*

#23
Bhrubby
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You mean whey?

#16
Congo1
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Realistically yes. Technically you can do it without but it will take MASSIVELY more effort and far more planning AND less flexibility.

#17
Jarvuy
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You just need complete protein in your diet doesn’t matter how you take it. Whey is a very good source tho. There is a lot more which applies when it comes to growing muscle but you need protein regardless.

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