OMG I LUV SAUDI :DD

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IonlywatchvcjXD

Now that I have your undivided attention. It's time for you people to understand how orgs ~~survive~~ earn money.

Have a gazillion sponsors like DFM and Sengoku. (I don't know any example outside of Japan) or have just one but huge sponsor
Merch sales , 100T SEN and ZETA comes to mind, but realistically most orgs will be heading to this part.
Have a rich owner/benefactor. It can be a popular streamer ( MURASH TH KOI etc), company ( FAV is owned by Kadokawa) etc

Realistically it's a mix of these 3. But it still doesn't paint a bright picture. They're still burning money.

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bundles

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Part of merch sales

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Idk if I would qualify a champs bundle as merch tbh because it's for the entire esport but I see it for skin capsule bundles

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bundles help cushion the costs, but they aren't giving orgs big bucks. Besides, only a handful of orgs actually get a lot of sales.

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$44 million across 44 teams is not cushioning costs
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/1h84mkf/valorintel_riot_games_confirms_that_443_million/

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yes i agree

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realistically SEN and PRX were like 90% of that

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Even if you have sponsors and merch, 1 million is 1 million... that's a ton to improve stability

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you could also lose a lot of potential merch being bought and support from fans for participating so in reality is 1 million really worth it when in the long term it could be a net negative anyways?

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If EWC is long term, yes it's worth it, if not then it's bad.

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Japan Ecosystem towards Sports is different amongs the world so no.1 is hard to apply for rest of the world

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Which is why I included the second part , few but big sponsor. Kinda realized halfway writing having 32 sponsors ( Sengoku) is most likely a japan thing anyway. It's not as if every org in japan are like that.

But the 2nd part is applicable on global scale imo

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In real, clubs expand and win, and the more you chase glory, the bigger the deficit gets. If you want to play big, you have to pay more. much more. That's why that EWC shit list has the big names first.

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I think esports as a sort 'billboard' for advertisers is the only viable way forward tbh
traditional sports make a lot of money from ticket sales + streaming rights (ticket sales in esports aren't nearly as huge as in trad sports (outside of the last few matches of a Major/Champions), and paid streaming rights are non existent in esports (likely for the better tbh))

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Which is why T1, other Korean orgs and Chinese orgs are trying to hold one-off big arena events like homeground, to get that sweet ticket sale revenue going.

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Well why can't people just take example of DSG who burnt so much money by fielding so many teams across different regions just for the love of eSports from Toast

But DSG was in losses from beginning

EWC will atleast bring in money for orgs

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That line of thinking is very naive. Not all orgs have that kind of luxury, while Toast can bail DSG out, who will bail orgs who have no rich owners?