all time goat tierlist

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howsyfps

based off longevity, individual as well as team performance, peak, as well as tournament wins

only includes players that actually have some sort of argument of being the best in their role/region or the goat (For example I know Marved was good in 2022/2023 and is a trophy winner but there is no argument for him being the goat of anything but being washed)

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Meteor and Alfa should be same tier imo. Very similar careers

Alfa was insane in 2022 and meteor made a lot of events before his trophy wins too

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yeah I agree

I put Meteor since he's the goat of Pacific at this point yet Alfa is over shadowed by loads of Emea pros

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Where is Pancada?

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"based off longevity, individual as well as team performance, peak, as well as tournament wins"

Alfajer is better than Less in all these, But you refuse to respect him

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L0ss is the most overhyped player of all time, nAts and Alfa>>>>>>>

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its over bro let it go

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No he isnt, lol, Less is the only player that won a championship em 2 different regions, he won a Champions AND he is top 3 in his position since he started profissionaly, AND IS ONLY 19!!!! (Alfajer too, but u get it)

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Less made a masters final and won champs in 2022, in 2023 he got second in LOCK//IN, won Americas and got top 3 at champs, 2024 he was on a worse team that Alfa due to Aspas leaving but still managed to make Madrid.

2025 he moved to EMEA, joined a whole new team and won Kickoff and got top 4 at Bangkok

Less defines consistency

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glittering_yard

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Leo has a better case for GOAT than both Derke and Chronicle imo

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howsyfps

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how lol Chronicle was on prime gambit and Derke has been one of the best players in the world since the first ever masters

and they both have the same achievements as Leo

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But in their best achievements in the game (2023 Lockin and Masters Tokyo), they got carried by Leo and Alfajer. Chronicle was never the best player on his team at any point in time and If you pull up the stats over the years, Leo clears both.

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stats aren't everything tho and longevity is more important than just being the best at one point of time

also Leo and Alfajer did not carry just because they played the best

I would understand your point if Derke and Chronicle a little bit more but it's years

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but Leo has the longevity, he is just not playing anymore because he is sick. And Leo was not just the best at ONE point in time, he was the highest rated player in 2023 (Chron and Derke best year). He had 1.30 rating at Lockin and 1.31 at Tokyo, how is this not carry?

And I think being considered the best player in world is very important in these GOAT discussions

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Leo does not have longevity like Derke and Chronicle

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Almighty

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How is yay above alfajer💀😂😂

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Why is alfa lower than KK, Meteor, yay?