Sacy was only good on loud. Ppl who say he was good on sentinels are delusional. "But but util", thats why tenz and zellsis got more assists then him. Like no shit the initiator is going to use util smartly, thats the bare minimum in tier 1.
the "but but util" is just the narrative they have for players they like that are garbage in the server, you barely see anyone justifying crashies' performance and going "but he has good util and impact out of the server"
Funny thing is that the same bronzilians defending S0cy were the same ones hating on c0m for being ass on lev and ruining aspas. Like just accept both players were trash. Sacy was good on Loud tho thats were I can agree.
go look for them, I guarantee there's 3 max with these 2 included (I faintly recall making a thread about players who the community says "have good util", it wasn't about sacy in particular)
fun fact about s1mon the only game he went positive in EDG's champs run was their loss against G2. It's almost like support players value isn't drawn from their fragging ability.