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Does Jawgemo have a greater legacy than TenZ?

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#1
king_bob
  • Won NA’s first and only Champs
  • Would’ve debatably won Champs FMVP if Riot didn’t suddenly start that shit the minute EDG won
  • Placed 2nd in Masters Tokyo
  • Currently top 4 in Masters Bangkok
  • Won a regional the second he left EG
  • 3rd in 2023 Americas League
  • Never lost a series vs TenZ since he started competing in the Precambrian Era (2020)

Is his portfolio not better overall? It looks like the gap is only gonna get wider ngl.

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c4rrotstix
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  • demon1 was champs mvp lets be so fr
  • 8 team format means jackshit when 4 of the 12 teams are piss poor anyways, if not more
  • won a region title joining a top 8 champs team into an americas region that looks the worst ever parity wise in the franchising era
  • beat sen when they were on the worst form of the year in 24, never played tenz when sen was actually good

Jawg is good, but let's not try to use bullshit points to have to prove why he's the goat rn. Let him prove it with winning this year

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king_bob
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What did I just read

#3
yukky
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TenZ was a pioneer.

Did it like no other, even if it was in the precambrian era

Came back and won a masters as well

Peak viewership, face of Valorant, you can't compete with that

#5
king_bob
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“Did it like no other” aspas, Derke, Demon1, KangKang, Leo, Less…

#6
yukky
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Undefeated, ACS Record, 0 maps dropped

#8
king_bob
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I want you to visualize in your mind what the players I’ve just listed accomplished that TenZ has not

#10
yukky
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I think you might be stupid

#14
king_bob
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4/6 of them won something very very important

#7
shrike-
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people will always remember the one who did it first

jawgemo may eventually clear but tenz was the one who started it all (especially in the dominant way he did), his legacy should be respected for that if nothing else

#9
king_bob
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pretty sure brax started it

#15
king_bob
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why’s this downvoted

#11
Yistyy
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This is actually a pretty good debate and I really like both of these players. But I think you have to give it to tenz for now, just more influential and impactful pre-franchising. I do think Jawgemo will definitely beat him in the future though for sure.

#12
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no, legacy in this game is different to actual sports, in that the impact during their prime and their longevity in different metas matter more. Tenz created the meta for yoru in pro play before forsaken, had people legit support sentinels during 2021 when the org wasnt cancer, and reinvented himself when he could no longer play duelist at the highest level. Jawg is good but tenz clears

#13
grisx23
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Starting to think these kind of arguments are made by haters to set people up, especially after the underwhelming performance of Jawg in recent days. You guys are worst kind of haters.

#16
king_bob
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?

#17
viiseryZ
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https://imgur.com/a/iym42Yi

#18
king_bob
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😍😍😍

#20
Yistyy
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Common viiseryZ W

#19
Shadow_Monarch
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I'm lost and confused. Jawgemo was only great with Demon1 in EG. He wasn't so great before Demon1 subbed in for BCJ. Then after Champs2023, he wasn't so great with 2024 EG. He's good and looking better with a good team right now aka G2.
Great player but lets not overhype him as of yet.

#21
grisx23
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I dont know why are you getting downvoted when you are right lol
EG was the worst team by faaar before demon1 joined

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