we can agree this team looks absolutely dire right? like potentially 12th place dire right? riiiight?
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and how did having cauan and pancada go for them in stage 2 (with Saadhak mind you)
Ok no I'm not standing for this slander
Of course they did poorly. They had Saadhak on duelist, for crying out loud
yeah i know, and they still managed to get two wins in Stage 2 (which is wild). but they sacrificed Less and Saadhak for a way worse IGL and a duelist that peaked in 2023 and shit the bed in tier 2. Like okay? congrats on solving your duelist problem i guess!
That's not relevant to your point
and how did having cauan and pancada go for them in stage 2 (with Saadhak mind you)
This is what I'm responding to
it is because it proves that cauan, pancada and tuyz dont have THAT much talent to carry a team even with role issues. if that doesnt make what im saying clear, then i fear we will never agree on anything in this topic.
no lol, stage 1 they will be ass, but as soon as lukxo and sato go 18 they're getting way better.
if this is whats rumoured/reported for them in the future then that will make them a better team, but i fear its just an NRG 2024 situation where it might be too burnt to be salvageable
pancada is very good
cauanzin is good
dgzin is mid
tuyz is meh
v1nny is ass
this team is cooked
I like tuyz, but he is a meh player
he fills a role, doesn't throw, doesn't lose you games but he surely never wins you any
he is very much a 5/10 player. he's kinda just there.
dgzin is also pretty much the same in my eyes but the problem is that he's a duelist and not a controller lol
tuyz is good enough
but tuyz, cauan and pancada have proven theyre not enough to carry a team with just talent
yeah I'd accept that
I think I underrate him because he wasn't part of the winning squad and so I don't see him as a championship player. he's been consistently good for the team
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