LOUD 2025 | VLR.gg

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shermie

we can agree this team looks absolutely dire right? like potentially 12th place dire right? riiiight?

#2

Vaaero

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I got here at 0 seconds

#3

Two_Percent

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They still got cauan, pancada, and dg

#4

shermie

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and how did having cauan and pancada go for them in stage 2 (with Saadhak mind you)

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teilwal

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saadhak on neon + peu sabotaging

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cloudberry

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Ok no I'm not standing for this slander

Of course they did poorly. They had Saadhak on duelist, for crying out loud

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shermie

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yeah i know, and they still managed to get two wins in Stage 2 (which is wild). but they sacrificed Less and Saadhak for a way worse IGL and a duelist that peaked in 2023 and shit the bed in tier 2. Like okay? congrats on solving your duelist problem i guess!

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cloudberry

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That's not relevant to your point

and how did having cauan and pancada go for them in stage 2 (with Saadhak mind you)

This is what I'm responding to

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shermie

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it is because it proves that cauan, pancada and tuyz dont have THAT much talent to carry a team even with role issues. if that doesnt make what im saying clear, then i fear we will never agree on anything in this topic.

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Two_Percent

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They didn’t have a duelist?

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xKali1

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no lol, stage 1 they will be ass, but as soon as lukxo and sato go 18 they're getting way better.

#10

shermie

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if this is whats rumoured/reported for them in the future then that will make them a better team, but i fear its just an NRG 2024 situation where it might be too burnt to be salvageable

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kaninv

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pancada is very good
cauanzin is good
dgzin is mid
tuyz is meh
v1nny is ass

this team is cooked

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teilwal

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“dgzin is mid” s0n fan classic

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Syr0m

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dgzin is no big deal

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cloudberry

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"tuyz is meh" is a crazy thing to say

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Ouken

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as sentinel he is

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1243

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he's been meh since the start of 2024

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kaninv

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I like tuyz, but he is a meh player
he fills a role, doesn't throw, doesn't lose you games but he surely never wins you any
he is very much a 5/10 player. he's kinda just there.

dgzin is also pretty much the same in my eyes but the problem is that he's a duelist and not a controller lol

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shermie

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tuyz is good enough
but tuyz, cauan and pancada have proven theyre not enough to carry a team with just talent

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catNmouse

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cauanzin is very good*

#21

kaninv

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yeah I'd accept that
I think I underrate him because he wasn't part of the winning squad and so I don't see him as a championship player. he's been consistently good for the team