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Indra420

ppl were actually saying jawg isnt top 3 in NA and oxy clears him LMFAO holy delulu ppl lets be real americas is

aspas
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oxy is playing well

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Indra420

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yes but compared to jawgemo it aint close. big gulf between top 3 then 4 imo but oxy is insane aswell but will never win bcus well c9

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do we know what tourney this is?

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Danny

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if the gulf is so big why has Oxy diffed jawgemo every time they've faced

https://www.vlr.gg/423429/cloud9-x-shopify-rebellion-vs-g2-gozen-vct-off-season-spotlight-series-2024-americas-gf/?game=all&tab=overview

https://www.vlr.gg/424007/g2-esports-vs-cloud9-red-bull-home-ground-5-sf

https://www.vlr.gg/314632/cloud9-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w2

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idk why zekken is in 2nd with only raze as his top duelist pick

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Indra420

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yea i can see that imo i rate zekken cus he has insane highs when he peaks imo but yea 50/50 with him and jaw imo

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Jawgemo is so good

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always knew he was amazing on raze but idk why I was so so late to see that he is probably the best raze player

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He won Champs as the best Raze of the tournament, proving he’s the best Raze in the world.

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after he satcheled the boombot to find the viper in the ult to spam him out he became the Raze GOAT

everything else is extra credit

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Yuh_aye

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You know your duelist scene is stacked when Oxy isn't even top 3 lmao

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He’ll be top 3 NA, his neon was mid compared to zekken or jawgemo. jett and raze meta is back

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Yuh_aye

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honestly besides the top 2 which is pretty locked in (for now), the battle for 3rd is looking like a dog fight

Mada Oxy Keznit Jawgemo

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cause hes not. the entire 24 season shows that to you

cant believe im in a world where people think jawg has a bigger impact than zekken

people dont even remember when oxy dropped 30+ on him. sigh dude recency bias is too strong

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holy delulu. let me use your own logic against you do you remember 2023 zekken he wasnt even top 3 duelist NA bcus his team was shit he was dog dog whilst 24 EG was worse than that 23 SEN roster jawg still performed and played better than zekken did when he had a shit team. Also, comparing their best seasons which is 23 jawg and 24 zekken, its not even fair how badly 23 jawg clears zekken what did he do win madrid ? 23 Jawg was insane in Americas, tokyo and champs. saying recency bias whilst using recency bias is crazy idk if ur lacking couple braincells or trollin

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zekken was a top 5 rated player in americas 2023 in a dysfunctional team

jawgemo is insane but his performance on a dysfunctional team didn’t even come close sadly

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Indra420

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jawg got play of the year with a shit EG team with nobodies

zekken had 2 WC sacy and pancada and tenz and still flopped bro made a superteam and still couldnt perform that's 1000x worse so idk what u yapping about

jawg literally beat zekken in 2023 and 2024 like wtf u yappin bout

https://www.vlr.gg/183807/evil-geniuses-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-w6
https://www.vlr.gg/314640/sentinels-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3

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zekken had 2 WC sacy and pancada and tenz and still flopped bro made a superteam and still couldnt perform that's 1000x worse so idk what u yapping about

zekken was a top 5 rated player in that year being on an actual dysfunctional team (tenz was sick, marved came in, dephh was out by then) compared to 2024 eg where jawgemo had alot of slump games

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you're comparing a team with pancada, sacy, tenz, zekken and deph or marved against apoth nature jawg derrek and supamen ? like do you read what you typed. thats literally 2 WC 2 Masters winners vs 4 bottom feeders and jawg. you keep saying dysfunctional team like that isnt their fault ? you know why it was dysfunctional bcus they tried to build a superteam and flopped thats why it was bad and dysfunctional.

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they had sacy on controller and pancada on sentinel, that’s more dysfunctional than apoth (who is the main reason why sen lost btw)

jawgemo was a bottom feeder along with his teammates let’s be real here. he choked vs 100t being giga diffed by cryo

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Indra420

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you forget all these decisions are on the players and coach these are all decisions apart of being a good team, they got good players made bad deiscions therefore they sucked not because dysfunctional they made choices and choices led to them being bad how hard is that to understand why you trying to make excuses for them LMFAO ?

also was does him losing to 100T have any relevancy here ? were talking about EG/ jawg and SEN/ zekken
also if you want to mention that yea 100T beat a shit EG team everyone expected them to beat but SEN the chokers they are still lost to that same trash EG team LMFAOO
https://www.vlr.gg/314640/sentinels-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3

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catNmouse

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the relevancy is that you called jawgemos teammates bottom feeders yet overlook the fact that he’s had more stinker games than good games

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zekken was always a top duelist in americas. youre either braindead or low attention span if youve ever thought otherwise.

24 jawg was horrid, far worse than whatever 23 zekken could do, you probably didnt watch the games though.

how is it recency bias if im using a whole fucking years worth of games, instead of a single month worth of games (like someone).

Jawg wasnt even the best nor second best player on EG at champs and tokyo.

I still think its crazy to argue that jawg is a top 3 duelist player using (some of) the off season games hes played and completely ignore his 24 year, and the other half of the offseason games hes played

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What is this revisionism he was def their 2nd best at Champs

him and demon1 were hardcarrying Grands as well

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Indra420

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https://www.vlr.gg/248277/paper-rex-vs-evil-geniuses-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-gf you never watched a single game started watching last year and now you're waffling he had the most games in final for prx so idk wtf ur talking about

24 jawg had play of the year what did 23 zekken do other than being shit ? so stop the fkin cap, also wtf has zekken done other than madrid he has been notoriously inconsistent and flop at big chances look at xset at copenhagen thats literally only event zekken made before this year he was literally a regional hero otherwise. Zekken was always a good duelist never top duelist before this year so idk wtf ur yappin bout

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jawg is a good duelist too, not a top 3 duelist, if you have to ignore a years worth of performances to call him still a goat duelist you're delusional that thrives off recency bias, even when RECENTLY oxy mogged him 🤣🤣🤣

there is no way youre talking about play of the year I cant take you seriously. bringing up XSET? what can I expect from an optic flair you live in the past

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Indra420

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recency bias is being bias of recent events im not sure if you know what that means ? if anything its past tense bias not recency bias, go back to school dumbass fr. keep yappin without 0 games to back up what u say. rglmeister and artizin mogged oxy this season does that make them better ? 0 iq replies fr

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I don't think you've understood a word I've said. im mocking your of offseason games mate.

jawg has a great 23 year: OMG JAWG IS THE GOAT DUELIST!!!

jawg does shit in 24: 🤫🤫🤫

jawg has some good offseason games: OMG JAWG IS THE GOAT DUELIST!!!

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Indra420

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how about during the season ? https://www.vlr.gg/314640/sentinels-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3

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what am I supposed to be looking at here

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Indra420

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zekkens best year and best team still cant beat worst EG iteration enough said & also jawg went 13-7 in h2h vs zekken lol

continue thread →

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dort

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jaw had ap0th holding him back in 2024 and people already forget his performance at champs

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oxy not touching top 3 talks til he wins a meaningful game

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catNmouse

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do you consider regular season games meaningful?

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somewhat but more-so anything in a playoff bracket, We havent really seen a winning effort out of him in those do or die games whether its internationally or domestically

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Jawg is the best Raze and Neon in Americas. If he proves his Jett is up to par, I can see him contesting Aspas as #1 if he gets 1 trophy and straight up replacing him if he gets 2 this year.

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Indra420

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tbh jawgs jett was his best agent on the OG EG roster from 2022 so i think he could be insane on it

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not top 3 duelist in NA? dude is top 3 idw imo.

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Indra420

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dont say this otherwise @x_knowitall39_x will have a heart attack and call u recency bias lol

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But aspas isnt NA

Real NA ranked: 1. Jawg 2. Zekken 3. Oxy

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oxy > jawgemo

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Nah. I’ll agree that Oxy tends to have better raw aim but Jawgemo has far better movement. The overtuned Neon makes it look closer than it is.

At the same time, Jawgemo is a stronger entry which is more important for what his team needs out of him. Oxy tends to have better stats because his team completely sets him up to get multifrags and carry.

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Danny

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Oxy clears Jawg and it's really not close

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Why is he playing today?

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catNmouse

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jonahps dad got cancer and he went back to canada to spend time with him, so jawgemo is replacing him

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Nah 1. Aspas 2. Zekken 3. Oxy