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OXY as main duelist (keep at all cost)
Rossy as recon/flex (keep at all cost)
v1c as smokes
-Moose
-Xeppaa (depends on how well he does in the VCT 2025 season)
+yay as sentinel (only guaranteed sentinel upgrade that is currently LFT)
+bdog as flasher (not a guaranteed upgrade from Xeppaa, especially on this role. But this has the most potential out of any tier 2 player in NA)

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I heckin love yay

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i dont think their are enough options for flash initiator that are clear upgrades from xeppaa to justify letting him go

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replace Peppaa with Crashies, he can play flash ini. Replace M00se with Marved, instant top 4 team in americas.

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dont get me wrong i love crashies but is replacing xeppaa (who has extremely good chemistry with their existing duelist) with someone who is a slight upgrade actually worth it? i dont think so

the one argument i can see being made is crashies is much more proven in high leverage situations while xeppaa is off season lebron james

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Are you making Crashies not play his best role? (recon) Just to make him play flash? I would understand Crashies for Moose, because his sentinel was kinda clean, but I don't think he fits in C9 at all (at least, role wise)

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"just to make him play flash" he has played skye breach and kayo before. I think it's a bit silly to think of crashies as a one trick sova, he can mid round and shoots back better than Peppaa, doesn't matter what he does in off season events when he's been stealing regular season paychecks for 4 years now, about to be 5. and for the "chemistry" argument, yeah I'm sure that'll help when he's dropping pi in playoff games next season, I'm sure oxy will be happy being called the "best NA duelist" but never playing internationals cuz of his "friends".

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Hobbit

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Xeppaa is a better flasher than Crashies. Crashies is more flexible role wise, but I don't think that Cloud9 needs that rn

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Tf? Yay is lft? How is EG going through their second rebuild of the off season and we are still 2 months away???

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Hobbit

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He is not signed yet. Purest said that EG decided to not continue with sym, implying that yay is in EG's plans

But nothing set in stone

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make a realistic one, not the one of your dreams, because yay won't come out of eg

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Hobbit

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He's not signed with EG. Probably waiting for 2025 to sign him

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C9 doesn't need any fixes, already a top3 roster in Americas

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I highly doubt yay would join c9 again considering how they fucked him over last time.

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Hobbit

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I mean, they just couldn't afford him

I heard it was like half a million a year

And it was not really Cloud9 that fucked yay, it was the format, because Rito didn't allow teams to sign players mid way through the season

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then they shouldn't have signed him

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Hobbit

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It was yay the one who reached Cloud9

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they still shouldn't have signed him

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Hobbit

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The best player in the world knocks at your door and you don't answer?

And they couldn't afford him because one of their sponsors were declared bankrupt after they signed him

It's not that easy

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Harapan845

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i would think in such a volatile industry they would have thought about that

#18

Hobbit

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Then you could also blame yay for knocking at C9's door. Why wouldn't he think of it in such a volatile industry?

Blaming people here is useless, Cloud9 didn't fuck yay, it was Riot's format. The circumstanses were fucked, no matter the way you look at it

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Harapan845

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you... you are blaming riot

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Hobbit

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The format, yes, why wouldn't I?

continue thread →

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Harapan845

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and yes yay should of thought of that

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MentalSwmr

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-xeppa
-moose
+corey
+adder
(unless they want a igl better than rossy) = +stellar : the best tier 2 NA igl, the fact he didn't get picked up by EG or C9 this offseason should be investigated

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Corey plays the exact same things that Xeppaa, which is good. But I'm not really sure if it would be that much of an upgrade

And Add3r is consistent at tier 2. Maybe it's an upgrade, but I'm not sure it would make that much of a difference