2025 fraud watch

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gamergirl

DemonBum
Botster
Saadhak
Aspas
Goked
Those guys on 100t who are still there for wtv reason

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chrlxz

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have to agree

all need to show they arent washed

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lordooohyeaa

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zellshit
jonahpig
botstio
zkekken

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gamergirl

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two of these are not like the others

zellshits and zekkdaddy have more trophies than EMEA in 2024

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This is such a weird thing to say when there are only 3 international events in a year.

“It’s not how you start that’s important, but how you finish!”

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SXNFLGJL

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And how did those 3 international events in 2024 turn out for every region?

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Turned out EMEA sent home every AMER team in the hardest and most anticipated tournament to end 2024

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gamergirl

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wait so Americas won Madrid, APAC won Shanghai, and China won Champs, looks like zellshits has more trophies man

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Look I'm obviously biased, but imo staying consistent throughout the year and doing well in champs is more impressive than winning the easiest trophy out of the 3. Now the years over Heretics were way more memorable, successful and hype than SEN overall.

Its just the way you said it like its some never seen before thing is weird. SEN seem to like winning the forgettable trophies tho.

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QUICK SOMEONE GET HERETICS THE CONSISTENCY TROPHY

ID LIKE TO AWARD HERETICS FOR THEIR AMAZING YEAR OF CONSISTENTLY BEING THE TEAM THAT THE WINNERS BEAT FOR TROPHIES SO HYPE WOW

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2nd Champs > 1st Masters :)

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gamergirl

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this is some APAC fan cope, how the tables have turned lmfao

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catNmouse

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Heretics were way more memorable, successful and hype than SEN overall.

Ok you cannot be saying this while they didn’t win a single trophy this year, that is just disrespectful 💀

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I can actually, SEN were literally forgettable for the rest of the year. Didn't even make it to shanghai, and every match that involved Heretics was insane throughout the year. Best matches in Shanghai? Involved Heretics (FPX, all the G2 ones lol, GENG final). Same for Champs.

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you're just lying tho

the only reason SEN didn't 2-0 heretics at champs was because of a double pistol when SEN had a higher pistol winrate the entire tourney, and even with double pistols map 2 was 13-9

Heretics was marginally better at champs at best, and didnt win any trophies, why is it so hard for EMEA to win trophies?

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GENG final was NOT memorable atleast from the heretics side lmao. They got blown out map 4 and map 5, the champs rematch was way more exciting when they came back down 5-10 on the second map

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I said those 3 international events and you're only talking about a few things that happened at champions?
EMEA won 0 trophies. Americas, Pacific, and China won a trophy each
That is reality

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Ye I never denied reality. I just stated my opinion of it. But yes those "few things" at champs are more relevant than winning 1 trophy at the start of the year. (Congratz to China) Also if you navigate to some of my other comments you'll notice I mention Shanghai as well.

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ImExempt

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JonahP is a good player? He's not super flashy but dude is consistent and his utility is almost always on point with him being the flex player

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brams6661

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optic core too

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elendooo1

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Fns yay and marved the most victor and crashies are already frauds imo

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gamergirl

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aren't they retired? lol the only one left is fenis and hes not a fraud because he's self-aware of his kitten tier fragging power

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elendooo1

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Everyone is either a restricted or unrestricted free agent? Except the goat Fenis

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elendooo1

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Idk where u got retired from

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gamergirl

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sorry, retired from tier 1

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gordonramsay

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foxy9

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cloudberry

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Saadhak does NOT belong on fraudwatch

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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aspas not on fraudwatch ❌ he on goatwatch ✔️

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catNmouse

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how is aspas and saadhak on here?

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gamergirl

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rage bait

saadhak is on fraud watch tho he was doing some weird shit this year

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catNmouse

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If boaster and saadhak are on this list then it is only right to put FNS as well. Engh should be on fraud watch too since he’s done weird stuff as well

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SAMPV6

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FNS yet again, since y'all ain't convinced he's shit

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catNmouse

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boaster and saadhak on this list but not fns 💀

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SAMPV6

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pure delusion

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Potatobrawler8

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who is goked
nvm he is koi coach

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loneliness

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T1 Autumn

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localkoolkid

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Xeppaa
Every Liquid player
PRX as a team not individuals (Except Jinggg)
FUT but only at LAN
All of Brazil
All of Japan
Every 100T player
And matter of fact, throw every Pacific team that is not GENG, or DRX in there bc how tf is your 3rd best team TALON!?!?!?
Also throw every Chinese team except EDG in there (even FPX bc they fell off)