Change my mind

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eric_5008

Icebox is the worst map.

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eric_5008

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Breeze is retake simulator but I play in gold and everyone just lurks on icebox. None of my teammates watch anything

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cloudberry

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Then why don't you? Take matters into your own hands, why don'tcha

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eric_5008

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I play viper mainly so I'm perma A or B bc no one likes playing her apparently. But im not the best so def a skill issue LUL

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cloudberry

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I play Viper on Icebox, too. Here's what I'd do if I need to hold the entire map:

Throw the default wall on A, great for stall and for retakes
Put your orb on default plant on B
Play in and around Orange, Kitchen, and Tube. You can watch Mid pretty easily from under Tube (you can even op if you really want to), and you can combo your orb with a molly pretty quickly if they're planting on B

Definitely not a perfect setup but it gets the job done for the most part

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Ur the viper goat on VLR by now

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cloudberry

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I only really ever play her on Icebox, Abyss, and Ascent if we're running double controller. I literally have more tech for Harbor, Omen, Fade, Cypher, and maybe even Deadlock 😭

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H3ENnZ

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How is it playing her on Abyss? I usually play Astra or Omen on that map I barely see people playing viper can she replace spherical smokes on abyss?

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cloudberry

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She can't fully replace dome smokes but it's not uncommon to be running double controller, even in ranked (someone will often lock Omen or Clove). Her B wall is an incredible asset on defense and she can viably smoke everything off on attack (plus she has great lurk walls and lurk potential in general with mid)

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H3ENnZ

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Ok thank you I play some harbour on this map as well and sometimes i feel like he is pretty good on this map in terms of taking mid or sealing off choke points

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cloudberry

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That being said if you're running solo controller... Omen's a great choice, Astra's amazing on this map, but I highly recommend Harbor. He's really really good on this map and his cascades and cove are especially useful

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Lotus and Abyss are worse, icebox is pretty bad tho

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Ascent is the worst MAP

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Breeze

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True

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