TH/OPTIC Comparision

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DeyahAlAjarma

People are saying that TH are not that good of a team on the base of not winning any of the finals, and I want to know if OPTIC never won reykavik would they be treated the same way? Optic lost both regional finals (vs TGRD and XSET) and in this timeline would have gotten 2nd at Reykavik and Champs and 3rd at Copenhagen

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yes

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OPTIC lucky that FPX couldnt attend Reykjavik due to CIS war. otherwise OPTC would go 2nd, 3rd, 2nd and FPX(EU) would have 2 trophies in 2022 and go on an insane year run (1st, 1st, 4th - which is the same as FNATIC 2023)

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dort

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oh really? why didnt fpx win champs then?

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because they are not demons just losers

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sentinelmain377

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because XSET kept them up until 3am with that dumass KJ bug, ruining their sleep for the next 2 days and leading to a worse performance against DRX (11-13, 9-13)

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n0vi

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DeyahAlAjarma

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then why didnt they beat them the last time they played drx? or why didnt they beat xset in groups? shitty ah team fluked 4th place shouldve been 5/6th

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sentinelmain377

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Group stage LMFAOOOOOOOOO
DRX won an OT 19-17 (how many teams win after losing such a big OT on map 1???)

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If they couldn't recover their sleep after TWO DAYS they deserve to lose, like I can get the gambit cope for champs, but TWO DAYS??? Surely you have better cope than that lmao!

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I dont know why people alway say OPTC was the best team of 2022 when LOUD made the same amount of GF AND won Champions

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sentinelmain377

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen/group-stage

placed lower than Northeption KEKW

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Optech got bodied by guild i dont think they deserve to be called a top 10 team oat or let alone 2022

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LOUD kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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yay went -14 or something and the game was still very close in rounds 😭 i don’t think optic got bullied, only yay did

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sentinelmain377

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was EMEA 3rd seed though

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catNmouse

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optic was 2nd seed because they always choke in regional finals

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grouped in copenhagen

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Im aware but id rather get grouped and win champs than win a fluke masters and then win nothing else

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the problem is optic did relatively well after reykjavik (3rd in copenhagen. 2nd in champs) if they were a one tourney wonder i would call it a fluke but overall the topic of that event is hard because FPX couldn’t attend and FNATIC had 2 subs, who knows how it would’ve went? I think LOUD would do fine since they beat G2 and TL

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if loud aint bomb out of copenhagen them maybe, also optic just had aura bro u wouldnt understand

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you cant tell me trashies and kektor had aura bro

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catNmouse

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yay and marved had aura

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Botroretro

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sure but crashies has a food allergy and FNS is balding

thats negative aura that not even marved and yay can off set

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x_knowitall39_x

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yay marved and fns all had aura, crashies had aura, ngl i dont remember caring at all bout victor but he had moments

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sentinelmain377

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WWW
Optic rematch aura + yay Marved aura in 2022 was insaneeee

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nobody___100

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optic would win champs if they lost in reykjavik
after they won they didn't have the same drive, which is understandable.
only fnc has ever won two tournaments in one year, and one was an invitational (no league play so no antistratting beforehand)

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ShuGo

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TH really isn't that good of a Team

They'll be like Acend, except they actually won shit 💀

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cameran

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they purposely lost in regionals for more practice
having a bye for groups is lame