navi is so back

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derke
suygetsu
angel
shao
cloud/zyppan

they also will apologize to doombros and bring him back.

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goonbros

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ardiis is the only good one in the team. zyppan fell off.

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zyppan still elite and clears that chinese agent

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nihso

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tbh I just need him on perma raze.

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might as well go russian speaking if you have 4 russian speakers no?

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Doesn't Derke know Russian? I saw someone earlier say he does

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Yes, he even played for a russian team before joining FNC

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There you go (ty btw)

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well he has played with russians before, his cs faceit account features ukrainians and russians and kazakhs, his name and surname are of russian descent so I think he is russian speaking

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Then they have 5 Russian speaking, right?

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with cloud yes.

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cloudberry

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Ohhh you meant Zyppan ok

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well zyppan is swedish so I really doubt he speaks russian, unless he picked it up from angel/shao/suygetsu

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Derke frequently speaks russian with chronicle

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I guessed he would, given Derke has the most slavic name out of non-slavic

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gold2peak

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would navi want a russian speaking roster?

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navi, as an org, said that the only thing stopping them from building russian speaking rosters and russian teams is
A) Transactions with a russian org (not a problem in valorant, given that there is no russian org)
B) Players who pay taxes and represent russia
so in order for navi to get a russian speaking roster they would only need cloud (or any other russian they sign) to ask all the sources where the nationaltiy is displayed to present themselves as neutral athletes (easy part) and move out of russia (hard for some).

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gold2peak

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then they would also have to find a russian speaking coaches and kc would never release enghh

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Nef0r0

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might be a crazy theory, what about navi setting angel to coach and splash the cash on a strong 5th?

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gold2peak

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i think i remeber angel saying somewhere that he doesnt want to coach

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I mean he knows Johnta, who is the head coach of fennel in japan, they worked together in CS. probably not a good candidate, but he might be the best option if angel doesn't want to coach. Yet I still think he can pull it off

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Wrong

Suygetsu
Ange1
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Zyppan
ScreaM

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gold2peak

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cream is going to koi (via dexerto)

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honestly atp you gotta justify having ange1, especially since cloud can igl

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ange1 was fragging well this season and when doombros was with them he was calling great

why waste a player like cloud on igl

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Aayan

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doombros was with them he was calling great

its pretty unlikely doombros is coming back though

waste

giants looked VERY good when cloud picked up igling

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chrlxz

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they were all just shooting well

they also didnt win a single game????????

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gold2peak

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i personally belive he's still a top 5 caller itw and him not fragging enough was not navi's biggest issue + finding a good igl in emea is unlikely, some teams had to go for players like redgar and magnum

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I agree it wasn't their biggest issue
But the way I see it is if you're adding cloud you already have a good IGL, you don't need to look for one. you could get someone in place of Ange1 from t2, maybe someone like b1sk

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b1sk is shit

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gold2peak

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putting cloud in the igl jail would be a waste of one of the best mechanical players itw imo, whether you like it or not igling does take away some amount of a players fragging ability

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The way the scene is moving I think it's better to sacrifice a bit of your mechanics for better calling. I think a lot of teams will realise after TH this year that the lack of firepower can easily filled by cracked t2 young players. We've already seen it in NA

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Derke
Zyppan
Zeddy
Suygetsu
Shao

It all makes sense holy shit I'm creaming

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gold2peak

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how is zeddy better than angel

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SnorlaxEnjoyer

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Plays smokes naturally so no need for shao to switch of initiator which he is world class at, also younger than ange1 and can aim when need be

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gold2peak

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angel can always go back to smokes + shao on smokes is still an s tier player

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no pls ange1 can never go back to smokes

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gold2peak

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if they get derke they get a proper duelist and angel wont have to entry no more

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brooo ange1 doesnt give a fuck hes gonna run in

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Ange1 on smokes is genuinely disturbing I'd rather they get zeddy purely because they are familiar as an org with him and also a natural smokes play so all is good

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but his stats even in tier 2 are tragic