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navi is so back

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#1
gold2peak

derke
suygetsu
angel
shao
cloud/zyppan

they also will apologize to doombros and bring him back.

#2
lxolotl
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goonbros

#3
nihso
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ardiis is the only good one in the team. zyppan fell off.

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gold2peak
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nihso [#3]

ardiis is the only good one in the team. zyppan fell off.

zyppan still elite and clears that chinese agent

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Nef0r0
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might as well go russian speaking if you have 4 russian speakers no?

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JMZxp
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Wrong

Suygetsu
Ange1
Shao
Zyppan
ScreaM

#7
Aayan
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honestly atp you gotta justify having ange1, especially since cloud can igl

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gold2peak
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JMZxp [#6]

Wrong

Suygetsu
Ange1
Shao
Zyppan
ScreaM

cream is going to koi (via dexerto)

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Nef0r0 [#5]

might as well go russian speaking if you have 4 russian speakers no?

Doesn't Derke know Russian? I saw someone earlier say he does

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Aayan [#7]

honestly atp you gotta justify having ange1, especially since cloud can igl

ange1 was fragging well this season and when doombros was with them he was calling great

why waste a player like cloud on igl

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gold2peak
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Aayan [#7]

honestly atp you gotta justify having ange1, especially since cloud can igl

i personally belive he's still a top 5 caller itw and him not fragging enough was not navi's biggest issue + finding a good igl in emea is unlikely, some teams had to go for players like redgar and magnum

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chrlxz [#10]

ange1 was fragging well this season and when doombros was with them he was calling great

why waste a player like cloud on igl

doombros was with them he was calling great

its pretty unlikely doombros is coming back though

waste

giants looked VERY good when cloud picked up igling

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cloudberry [#9]

Doesn't Derke know Russian? I saw someone earlier say he does

Yes, he even played for a russian team before joining FNC

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Verstepping33 [#13]

Yes, he even played for a russian team before joining FNC

There you go (ty btw)

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Aayan
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gold2peak [#11]

i personally belive he's still a top 5 caller itw and him not fragging enough was not navi's biggest issue + finding a good igl in emea is unlikely, some teams had to go for players like redgar and magnum

I agree it wasn't their biggest issue
But the way I see it is if you're adding cloud you already have a good IGL, you don't need to look for one. you could get someone in place of Ange1 from t2, maybe someone like b1sk

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Aayan [#12]

doombros was with them he was calling great

its pretty unlikely doombros is coming back though

waste

giants looked VERY good when cloud picked up igling

they were all just shooting well

they also didnt win a single game????????

#17
SnorlaxEnjoyer
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Derke
Zyppan
Zeddy
Suygetsu
Shao

It all makes sense holy shit I'm creaming

#18
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Aayan [#15]

I agree it wasn't their biggest issue
But the way I see it is if you're adding cloud you already have a good IGL, you don't need to look for one. you could get someone in place of Ange1 from t2, maybe someone like b1sk

b1sk is shit

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gold2peak
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Aayan [#15]

I agree it wasn't their biggest issue
But the way I see it is if you're adding cloud you already have a good IGL, you don't need to look for one. you could get someone in place of Ange1 from t2, maybe someone like b1sk

putting cloud in the igl jail would be a waste of one of the best mechanical players itw imo, whether you like it or not igling does take away some amount of a players fragging ability

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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#17]

Derke
Zyppan
Zeddy
Suygetsu
Shao

It all makes sense holy shit I'm creaming

how is zeddy better than angel

#21
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gold2peak [#19]

putting cloud in the igl jail would be a waste of one of the best mechanical players itw imo, whether you like it or not igling does take away some amount of a players fragging ability

The way the scene is moving I think it's better to sacrifice a bit of your mechanics for better calling. I think a lot of teams will realise after TH this year that the lack of firepower can easily filled by cracked t2 young players. We've already seen it in NA

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cloudberry [#9]

Doesn't Derke know Russian? I saw someone earlier say he does

well he has played with russians before, his cs faceit account features ukrainians and russians and kazakhs, his name and surname are of russian descent so I think he is russian speaking

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gold2peak [#20]

how is zeddy better than angel

Plays smokes naturally so no need for shao to switch of initiator which he is world class at, also younger than ange1 and can aim when need be

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Nef0r0 [#5]

might as well go russian speaking if you have 4 russian speakers no?

Derke frequently speaks russian with chronicle

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Nef0r0 [#22]

well he has played with russians before, his cs faceit account features ukrainians and russians and kazakhs, his name and surname are of russian descent so I think he is russian speaking

Then they have 5 Russian speaking, right?

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gold2peak
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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#23]

Plays smokes naturally so no need for shao to switch of initiator which he is world class at, also younger than ange1 and can aim when need be

angel can always go back to smokes + shao on smokes is still an s tier player

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cloudberry [#25]

Then they have 5 Russian speaking, right?

with cloud yes.

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Botroretro [#24]

Derke frequently speaks russian with chronicle

I guessed he would, given Derke has the most slavic name out of non-slavic

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Nef0r0 [#27]

with cloud yes.

Ohhh you meant Zyppan ok

#30
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cloudberry [#29]

Ohhh you meant Zyppan ok

well zyppan is swedish so I really doubt he speaks russian, unless he picked it up from angel/shao/suygetsu

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gold2peak
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Nef0r0 [#5]

might as well go russian speaking if you have 4 russian speakers no?

would navi want a russian speaking roster?

#32
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gold2peak [#26]

angel can always go back to smokes + shao on smokes is still an s tier player

no pls ange1 can never go back to smokes

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Botroretro [#32]

no pls ange1 can never go back to smokes

if they get derke they get a proper duelist and angel wont have to entry no more

#34
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gold2peak [#26]

angel can always go back to smokes + shao on smokes is still an s tier player

Ange1 on smokes is genuinely disturbing I'd rather they get zeddy purely because they are familiar as an org with him and also a natural smokes play so all is good

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gold2peak [#31]

would navi want a russian speaking roster?

navi, as an org, said that the only thing stopping them from building russian speaking rosters and russian teams is
A) Transactions with a russian org (not a problem in valorant, given that there is no russian org)
B) Players who pay taxes and represent russia
so in order for navi to get a russian speaking roster they would only need cloud (or any other russian they sign) to ask all the sources where the nationaltiy is displayed to present themselves as neutral athletes (easy part) and move out of russia (hard for some).

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gold2peak [#33]

if they get derke they get a proper duelist and angel wont have to entry no more

brooo ange1 doesnt give a fuck hes gonna run in

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gold2peak
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Nef0r0 [#35]

navi, as an org, said that the only thing stopping them from building russian speaking rosters and russian teams is
A) Transactions with a russian org (not a problem in valorant, given that there is no russian org)
B) Players who pay taxes and represent russia
so in order for navi to get a russian speaking roster they would only need cloud (or any other russian they sign) to ask all the sources where the nationaltiy is displayed to present themselves as neutral athletes (easy part) and move out of russia (hard for some).

then they would also have to find a russian speaking coaches and kc would never release enghh

#38
gold2peak
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SnorlaxEnjoyer [#34]

Ange1 on smokes is genuinely disturbing I'd rather they get zeddy purely because they are familiar as an org with him and also a natural smokes play so all is good

but his stats even in tier 2 are tragic

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gold2peak [#37]

then they would also have to find a russian speaking coaches and kc would never release enghh

might be a crazy theory, what about navi setting angel to coach and splash the cash on a strong 5th?

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Nef0r0 [#39]

might be a crazy theory, what about navi setting angel to coach and splash the cash on a strong 5th?

i think i remeber angel saying somewhere that he doesnt want to coach

#41
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gold2peak [#40]

i think i remeber angel saying somewhere that he doesnt want to coach

I mean he knows Johnta, who is the head coach of fennel in japan, they worked together in CS. probably not a good candidate, but he might be the best option if angel doesn't want to coach. Yet I still think he can pull it off

#42
nihso
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gold2peak [#4]

zyppan still elite and clears that chinese agent

tbh I just need him on perma raze.

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