who is frost? | VLR.gg

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kalayav_n

im not a coach, im no where near the level to even talk but the reason talon lost is BECAUSE of him. bros blaming his whole team what the fuck 😭

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idek why they hired him he has almost 0 credentials

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kalayav_n

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instead of talking about actual issues like how he set them up to fucking lose on ascent with no passive information, instead he said "our players just didnt wanna win and threw". if im a player im pissed as hell like what?

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He made his team qualify to international stage when he was in 100T

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panic on stage
like me presentation on school

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kalayav_n

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frost panic'ed? for sure

please save primmie from this terrible coach

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Tbf frost is the best thing that ever happened for talon lol. made an international and tbf multiple of toher coaches have been flaming their players post game as well.

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very differen't you can point out mistakes but saying your players are throwing and also not taking accountability for the shit comp they played on ascent? sage as the only senti with a clove and no dive

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comp wasnt bad they were just too slow to fix their issues regarding mid and they shouldve won bind as well if they didnt throw key rounds (com 3k in viper ult) so him saying they threw rounds is valid. he himself also takes accountability and shields his players saying they were nervous i feel like u jsut watched 3 minutes of the interview and proceeded to just skip the rest.

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comp very bad if you look at the tactic side of it, sage has absolutely 0 util support on the defense side. Her wall is only strong at the end rounds to overstack sites but even then its a gamble and LEV abused it whenever they heard the wall and would late midround rotate to the weak site(where it was walled) and time the wall break and execute. No passive information what so ever and so they were mostly forced to fight and sometimes caught off guard which lost them rounds. it was nothing about miscommunication or players "throwing".

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this is what talon does. they bring out multiple different comps and have seen success with it. they didnt have any control of mid but the reason why they lost wasnt bcuz of the comp, but how badly they played with it. lack of aggression towards A and mid caused them to let lev have free mid control. multiple solo fights and bad execution with sages wall on attack made them lose key rounds. they would've still lost ascent with the standard comp or any comp lol.

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you cant aggress A as deadlock is playing there, its like running into a trap. you do not wanna fight aggressive vs a deadlock especially when mazino saves his nade and has trips. if they however ran a cypher or KJ they could easily have had passive mid control(cam/bot) instead of getting lurked upon. Also this sage comp had 0 retake abilities except for phoenix and kayo. No KJ ULT, NO omen blind.

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All respect for talon is only due for primmie
Their team including manager are only on this championship because they purposely lose their game against Zeta to avoid geng. Pretty shameful tbh

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kalayav_n

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exactly, primmie is the only guy i respect on this team. the team didnt even play that bad they were just setup to fail with these awful compositions

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remember primmie was almost not on Talon because of frost, that alone warrants a kick

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if my team kept throwing like they did on both maps, i would disparage them on air too

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he had 4 timeouts in a 2 games series, and none of those timeouts had sense/ made actual profit to the game.

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kalayav_n

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he literally set them up for failure on ascent, its like sending self sabotage bro

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frost fraud 🤥

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talon threw many man advantages on bind, did you not watch the match? yes the ascent comp is dog, but the whole team(except primmie) was also underperforming.

Comps were bad but it was mostly their individual performance that lost them the game.

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kalayav_n

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Both teams played horrible on bind but the difference is ITOPATA knows how to be an actual fucking coach and doesn't shit on his players. Instead FROST set his team to fail on ascent with the worst composition of all time.

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He's the guy who fired hiko. Worst coach ever

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kalayav_n

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Dude im a average Valorant viewer whos abit nerdy and does basic vod reviewing, even i can tell how shit of a coach he is. way worse imo than the NRG G2 haven composition

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btw, i dislike frost as much as anyone else, but if you guys watch apac, you will know that this team is punching wayyyyyyyyyyy above their weight class. Hes a good coach. Also he barely ever plays a normal ascent comp. Yall just making yourselves look dumb by saying ts

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mhm like how he "saved" strats got embarrased 13-3 13-4 by prx and had 30 days to teach his players how to play valorant to only self sabotage his own team and blame his team instead of him and lose 2-0 and potentially bomb out of champs 0-2, i look very dumb

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i really dont get why people hate frost, he just yaps and speaks his mind man. what's so wrong with him 😭

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he should do it less dawg dude comes off like a huge prick
good coach though

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well yea it does come off as pretty offensive at times lol. after watching an ep of spiketalk my perspective of him kinda changed ig

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kalayav_n

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professionalism? i know if my coach is shitting on me publicly and acting like he had the most perfect composition. i would be morally low, not even fRoD(king of antistrats, compositions, pistol strats) acts that egotistical

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he was literally saying it’s due to inexperience, is he wrong for saying that, they team don’t have much experience

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kalayav_n

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no he said "oh wait i thought you had that" mocking his players miscomm, little things like this affect a team. you really think after they watch what he said they gonna be like "yeah lets win guys" lol

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Anyone have a clip?

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kalayav_n

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https://www.vlr.gg/383943/frost-the-biggest-reason-we-lost-is-because-we-were-too-nervous

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no way we're shitting on frost when he has taken a roster that looked like a theoretical bottom feeder at the start of the year and gotten them into champs with a serious chance of surviving their group
he 100% needs to shut up and get some media training but he has undeniably turned water into wine here

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kalayav_n

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i dont like the way he carries himself, seems egotistical blaming his players infront of a camera as well. sure hes gotten them this far but he is not a good coach, save primmie from this

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finnwithtwons

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yeah no shit hes a huge prick but to say he's not a good coach or to somehow discredit his accomplishment here with this objectively pretty weak talon squad on paper is genuinely, really crazy
the work he has done here is exceptional even if he's a wet rag of a guy

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kalayav_n

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im glad hes gotten them this far but his ascent comp was dog shit.

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Frost overcooks sometimes but he has elevated players that honestly aren't THAT great to make an international and do very well regionally. It's similar to what Potter tried to do with this years EG roster (a not-so-great roster that nearly made champs due to great coaching).

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i dont like the way he carries himself, seems egotistical blaming his players infront of a camera as well. sure hes gotten them this far but he is not a good coach, save primmie from this

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kalayav_n

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when EG lost to MIBR horribly did you see potter crush her players in front of a camera? shes always motivational and i love that, she also blames mostly herself for the mistakes so that it takes pressure away from her players.

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kalayav_n

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brother can't coach, what a trash coach

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This year is a huge success for talon, especially regarding expectations and budgets.
Qualifying for the biggest event of the year, integrating one of the most exciting domestic rookies.
Talon can build on this foundation to do even better next year.
Fr0st and the team have done well.

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kalayav_n

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seems like he just said put primmie on raze and fuck it, talon isn't a real team

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some of the people in this website need to be checked into the looney bin or something Lmao

yea brother its frost's fault that talon keeps losing 3v5s and 4v5s especially when it was his anti-stratting and macros that gave them those advantages to begin with
frost made ban look like the best deadlock in the world(on sunset) and primmie top fragged on raze despite never playing that agent at all (neither in pro nor ranked)

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kalayav_n

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primmie never played raze in ranked? we speaking out of your ass? you just lost all your credibility 💀

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yeah but you are dumb with that take anyways , frost is a better coach than fraud alecks , prx would cook with frost , his deadlock util strats were so good

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Primmie has 7 matches on raze with 4 hrs total last act
yes i consider that negligible enough to be considered "not at all" especially among pros who barely touch their 4th most played agent in pro play let alone their 12th