Zekken wasn't being humble.

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he was just spitting straight facts he is nowhere near the best duelist itw rare honest moment from NA.

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he's top 3 for sure (in NA chat why am i getting downvoted)

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Top 3 in NA sure but not even top 5 global

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top 7-10 globally for sure

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aspas texture and who else? He's for sure top 5, and he's not 5.

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Derke sayf and something along with the 2 you mentioned.

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EU bias for sure, derke and sayf have been good as always but haven't done anything noteworthy all year, something I can see an argument for, but personally have him at 4 or 5. Zekken has been consistent the whole year, won a trophy as MVP, highest rated player in Americas currently. One bad game and everybody loses their minds lmao.

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D0rke-Bombed out the last LAN he made/Leo and Alfa clear
Sayf-He’s cool

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Derke was the best player in fnatic for their 2 games at Shanghai and he’s the #1 rated player in all of EU rn. 0/8

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NAH
ASPAS
JAWG
OXY

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No, never top 3 itw

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idkmanwth

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IN NA ;-;

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Victor
Aspas
Jawgemo

i don't see zekken being anywhere near this top 3

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i agree with jawg and aspas been far superior in duelist than zekken, but victor bro come on

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idkmanwth

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bro snuck is discord

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bro got hard diffed by icy 💀

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when will ppl realize icy IS good. he fits in the team so well clearly. you could have a better raze but not to be flexible on the gekko etc.

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Zekken off raze is a bottom tier duelist

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like jinggg but.... slightly better?

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slump era jinggg still clears prime Zekken

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debatable (highly debatable)

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he is quite clearly up there with aspas and a tier above t3xture

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lelouch526

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DO NOT RESPOND BAIT ALERT

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 a tier above t3xture

You meant to say below?

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recency bias is crazy

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boilin_cockroach engagement act 2024, Rule number 15 states the following:
User TSMC threads (dangerous retard do not interact)

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Recency bias?

Idk Madrid and Shanghai don’t seem too recent

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https://www.vlr.gg/312779/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-gf
no i think he means above

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humble_y0y_10k

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mickey mouse fluke run by shitinels

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shanghai was the real mickey mouse tourney, and fnatic still didn't win a match😭

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no way your talking about mickey mouse when fnatic won lock-in and tokyo
2 of the biggest mickeys mouse tourneys ever

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dort

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2 of the biggest mickeys mouse tourneys ever

Bro forgot reykjavik 21 and madrid

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humble_y0y_10k

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lock-in hardest tournament in valorant
and tokyo had a lot of good teams
nice try

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Sen fan still stuck in the past lmao

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nihso

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Shanghai is the past now btw

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jixk

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https://www.vlr.gg/312778/gen-g-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/314640/sentinels-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/353201/sentinels-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w4
https://www.vlr.gg/314629/sentinels-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w2
https://www.vlr.gg/314645/sentinels-vs-loud-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w4
get him to be the best duelist in regionals then we will talk about him being above texture lol
btw i am zekken fan 3rd favorite duelist player but saying he is a TIER above texture is crazy

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why dont u link the grand final of sen vs geng

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jixk

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the guy i replied to linked it if you are saying it as a argument for why texture < zekken where was he in shanghai and plus texture doesn't get diffed in important regional matches

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i dont know what this has to do with anything considering that these are the very few rare matches that he underperformed
i dont think hes a tier above texture but i believe hes on the same level

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jixk

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i agree 100% they are on the same tier (i think most people prefer texture since his performance doesn't slip when he swaps between jett/raze) he is in the same tier usually on this site when someone goes in a direction you go in the oppsite so you can meet eye to eye saying he is above is crazy tho and let's be real everyone on geng under performed in that GF (not discrediting sen it was just there first GF and maybe first event if im remembering correctly)

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dangerous retard do not interact

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the hopium sen fan's have is a different level he legit got diffed by icy in the most important match for champs get him past icy and then we will talk about how he can be on the same tier maybe lower than texture

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Bro had one bad game and the clowns came out of their cave wait a little he will send you back to where you came from

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humble_y0y_10k

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I'm just saying i respect him for his honesty unlike other NA dogs that overrate themselves

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Kxtqqh

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semen1 catching strays

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top 3 duelists itw rn and of all time

aspas
aspas
aspas

no cap

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jixk

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he is one of the best duelist players i don't think he is top 5-10 all time but he is one of the best for sure

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Ultia

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Based on Current Form

Aspas
T3xture
Derke
Jawgemo
Zekken
Jingg
Sayf
Keznit
cNed
Oxy

I was tempted to include a TH player but Wo0t has been on the decline and back on flex while miniboo is looking like a “system duelist.” Jawgemo is the only one not to have made playoffs but he’s also got the weakest support system while still popping off — showing his championship Raze and Neon abuse. I’m pretty high on Sayf but he’s struggling with the same thing.

Praying Icy finds consistency with his form from yesterday because G2 would look like an absolute favorite at champs if he does.

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jixk

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i heavily dislike making duelist tier lists its so inconsistent aspas is the best duelist all time and he got diffed by cned and valyn's life game and it gets worse and worse for the duelist that arent the greatest of all time (aspas) so on some days derke looks like a fraud and on other days u think maybe he is top 10 but lower (tbh i think u overrated derke EU has alot crazy duelist on somedays he isn't the even the best raze on his team)
but u can make a argument for all these guys to be top duelists ranking them except aspas is really hard depending on how texture performs u might not even have that
overall 8/10 tier list cned/oxy are replaceable tho

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Ultia

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Appreciate it man.

I rated Derke highly because he’s stepped up quite a bit since Leo’s gone and looks quite good. He’s also got the tenure to prove his consistency.

I admit that I believe Americas has the majority of world class entries simply because of IGL role structures that results in EMEA fostering Initiators and Sentinels while APAC favors Flexes.

The following players are Top Tier Entries while the rest could be considered region farmers.

AMER: Aspas | Jawgemo | Zekken | Keznit

EMEA: Derke | Sayf

APAC : T3xture | Jingg

9th and 10th are up for debate but every list should include these 8 in some order.

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it makes sense that americas has the majority of the world class entries and honestly you did great since your list only has one entry who splits the role (jingg) and i think he gets it cause he got the legacy of being the best raze itw and the rest are the main entries and honestly i haven't watched the recent FNC games with context its honestly the best tier list i have seen on the site 10/10 honestly cned and oxy aren't even bad picks you could lowkey get icy in there if your tier list is entry players honestly wouldn't invest too much into cned since his raze is shaky and im very optimistic about icy since SEN is a good win