Sure prize pool is greater in champs, but since champs has more teams attending, doesn’t the overall quality of teams attending decrease? A 12 team tournament only has the top 3 teams from each region, but a 16 team tourney could have the 4th best team from a region. This would mean that if you get lucky with draws you could face lower tier opponents and still make a good run. Wouldn’t this mean difficulty wise a masters has harder teams than champs?
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Micro plays are important because they can help you take the important map control. They obviously matter less than map theory but they're an important part of team play that we ultimately see the best teams do. Also, every map that has come before a Champs was released 1 1/2 to 3 months before the Champs started.
Champs is more difficult:
- More prep time/motivation to win.
- Sure there’s a 4th seed in the pool, but 90% of them just end up getting grouped. In generals it’s quite rare that a region has more than 2 teams moving pass a stage.
- Even then if a team was to go on a run besting the “easy” teams, they’d just end up getting exposed when they eventually meet a 1st/2nd seed.
- Say based on luck a team manages to draw bottom 2 seeds out of China, absolutely demolishes them, then meets Gen G. Their run doesn’t get easier, but even harder when they get sent to lowers and are forced to face 3-4 more Gen G. Tier teams (Sen, PRX, Heretics, FNC).
- Champs is miles more exhausting with the format, especially if you’re not a 1st seed.
Wdym by more prep time?
Exactly, they get grouped because a team gets a much easier win against them. That team that beat them may have gotten grouped if they weren’t attending.
Sure, but that still allows teams to make deep runs into tournaments. Even a top tier team having to constantly struggle vs good teams will burn out faster and give up more strats than if they are fed easy opponents.
Sorry I’m slow rn, why is champs more exhausting? Isn’t it more fair now that first seeds don’t get advantages?
Teams between qualifying for masters. and qualifying for champs, there is a longer break
Even if that team gets easily grouped against them, it's still additional mental exhaustion, the more games you play the more exhausted/tired you become. Think about it from an actual athlete standpoint, like if LeBron was to play 3 games back to back to back, he'd be sore/tired leaving him prone to making more mistakes. With the additional pressure of not getting beaten by shit teams.
Champs is a far longer tournament, just because top seeds from each region automatically qualify doesn't make it any shorter. Far more games are played at Champs than at masters.
Champs is a harder tournament and justifying masters off the fact there are less teams solely is fucking brain dead.
I disagree that because fewer teams attend, then only the best teams are the ones that qualify.
Like Loud qualified to Madrid, but they are not the second best team in Americas, and Na'Vi didn't qualify to a single event despite (at the start of the year) being quite good.
Also, everyone on this site has been complaining about how shit single elim playoffs has been, because a fluke team could go on a run where they dont deserve to make it.
most champs teams are playing their best
teams that didn't attend a masters gave it their all at the end of the season to make champs
teams have the best synergy
team comps are the best because teams know what each player is best at
this year tho idk could be a mid champs if KC, EDG, 100t, etc are qualifying
le0 f0ria's stupid points system rewards "consistent" teams and allows teams that are currently shit (like the aforementioned teams) to make champs
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