Best and worst team in all regions rn

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H3ENnZ

EMEA:
Best: TH (What do u expect)
Worst: GIANTX (If your team is even worse than KOI u know there are something wrong with your team)

AMER:
Best: G2/SEN (G2 looks fine but we will have to see if Sentinels is still the best AMER team in the region)
Worst: MIBR (With their sub they looked alright I guess but they are not getting a win with their sub or their actual players)

PAC:
Best: PRX (Just have to be more caution and more careful and W gaming goes) Runner up: GENG (I could put them up at 1st in PAC rn but PRX did beat them in one BO3 and one BO5 in stage 1, still a great team I would say they look as good as PRX)
Worst: Bleed (Yay is not the issue keep Zest and find/import other talents pls)

CN: FPX (Man I would put EDG up there but they are looking shit and except for Kang kang everyone is stuck in a shit hole. FPX had very very very close series against GENG and TH, which are the 1st 2nd place in Shanghai)
Worst: TEC/EDG (Oh my my TEC they are not looking good neither EDG is if EDG does not wake up they will be stuck in a shit hole)

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Apac worst = ge (biased)

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APAC worst is ZETA lmao.

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Fair opinion GE does not look good but i didnt put them in worst is because they acc got some win (Against RRQ and DFM)

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nobody___100

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You are stupid af, how is PRX best in APAC

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They had terrible event way below their standards imo they are a lot better than what they have shown so its not crazy + they own domestically

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iluckilyVA

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So are you valuing domestic competition over international competition? Gen. G have made back to back grand final appearances on the international stage, even winning the latter one. Paper Rex haven't looked great internationally this year, in Madrid they had a decent placement but I think that's purely because competition was poor, beating Heretics at their first international tournament and at Shanghai they were awful.

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facts is that geng have not beaten prx everything else is just you rambling

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Who cares? Gen. G achieved more in 1 year than what Paper Rex achieved in 3. Internationally, Gen. G has consistently looked better than Paper Rex, and if they played against each other on the international stage, Gen. G would win, because unlike Paper Rex, Gen. G are not chokers.

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im valuing that GENG are going to need time to gain momentum again. GENG isnt a flawless 5-0 team is what im tryna say and the players are sick again so at some point their form might drop. PRX are more in a redemption phase. Im not saying GENG aint the best ITW but domestically its weird in pacific too many style battles, I wouldnt be surprised to see GENG 2nd or 3rd even lol.

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brahianv

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it pissed me that people think geng is a flawless team when domestically they are struggling a lot they need more time

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and what has prx achieved when they’ve had 3 years worth of time? cannot accept a team formed in 6 months has performed better than your washed core lol

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brahianv

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i really dont care what prx has achieved my guy i just that geng needs to beat them to claim that title in apac

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We said the same thing about Paper Rex going into Champs 2022. We said the same thing about Paper Rex going into Masters Tokyo. We said the same thing about Paper Rex going into Champs 2023. We said the same thing about Paper Rex going into Masters Shanghai. It is not happening. Gen.G have proved that they got it internationally, whilst Paper Rex have garnered the reputation as chokers.

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bro stop changing the point the facts is that geng needs to beat prx to claim the best title in apac

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iluckilyVA

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Dude, Gen. G got the region their first trophy. The only reason in my opinion, that Gen. G would ever struggle in the regular season, is due to time constraints and regardless of that, they still persevere. Beating Paper Rex domestically does not matter when the rest of the team pool from the region is dogshit, they essentially have a free pass to international tournaments, and they know that international competition is more important, hence why they do better there.

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yhhh ppl forget geng literally are burnt out from making deep runs in tourneys like sen lol, they don’t get time to rest and are antied hard and still shit on the region

they were literally trolling during apac grand finals by switching up munchkins and lakias roles, they know domestic placements don’t matter

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iluckilyVA

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Literally. At Shanghai teams literally would not scrim them and they just came off a great run at Madrid

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brahianv

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"they know that international competition is more important, hence why they do better there." keep rambling you are spouting bullshit

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iluckilyVA

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LMFAO! Great argument dude, it's been great!

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are you implying international events are less important than domestic? were you dropped as a child

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bro he just said that geng plays bad domestically because they only care about global event do you how stupid this and how convenient revisionist argument is after they won shanghai how this not clear to you?

continue thread →

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im not saying prx are winning champs. But they arent frauds lmao, so dont be surprised if they come out as 1st seed entering champs

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iluckilyVA

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I wouldn't be surprised if they do, but regardless, Gen. G also make champs and do better than them lmfao

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gordonramsay

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ofc GENG 2024 are world beaters

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H3ENnZ

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Now u are making a point now u are unironically the smartest person in this thread rn.
I valued their performance mostly from THEIR REGIONAL GAMES BUT I WOULD CONSIDER SOME OF THEIR HISTORY IN VCT AND RECENT LAN EVENT

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I don't understand valuing domestic competition over international competition

International -- > Higher stakes, trophy on the line, prize pool on the line, opportunity to prove yourself internationally as individuals and as a team and provides an opportunity to build a positive reputation, since more people are watching.

Domestic -- > History used by top teams to experiment, especially when regional competition is poor. Like NAVI last year for example. Gen. G are essentially guaranteed a champs spot since competition is that bad compared to them.

And their history to me is insignificant when Gen.G achieved more in 1 year than Paper Rex did in numerous.

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When u compare the entire history of both teams u will see that PRX did have a better performance in LAN events but with no achievements. GENG did have a great 2024 but it is too soon to say that they are the best team in PAC rn we will have to see Champions 2024 if they did good in stage 2 and Champions and PRX still acts the same they did in shanghai i will put GENG on top of PAC.
But I respect ur opinions but remember I did say that they are basically the same in my opinion but PRX still has more in my heart

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iluckilyVA

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This Gen. G core have only existed for this year so doesn't it seem a little unfair to compare that history? and I don't think it's too soon to call Gen.G the best team in PAC right now because we are talking about RIGHT NOW.

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they lost two times to prx in a bo3 and bo5 so he is right, geng they have won masters but they need to beat prx if they want to claim that title of "Best in a apac"

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so how is G2 the best AMER team then if 100T has beaten them 3 times already? list doesn't make any sense lmao he is stating what the best team from each region is not comparing them to each other. He said that EDG were bad because of their LAN performance but doesn't apply to other regions???

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H3ENnZ

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Sorry I dont rank teams that got 0-2 by a 0-5 team

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DBStudios

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recency bias at its peak LMAO wouldn't expect anything less from a SEN fan tho ranking their team to be the best after one series

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brahianv

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what i said is facts whether you like or not is not my problem

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DBStudios

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your facts are dumb lmao how is the first trophy holder of APAC not going to be the BEST team in APAC lmao

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brahianv

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sorry but if you have not beaten prx how can you claim being the best in apac that does not sound right to me

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DBStudios

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so like i said before how can G2 claim to be the best in AMER if they have a 0/3 against 100T

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H3ENnZ

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So are u going to ignore that PRX is very consistent through out the history...? I literally said GENG IS EQUALLY GOOD BUT I WOULD RANK THEM BELOW PAPER REX because they have more individual styles and more chaotic gameplay which made them noticibable. Not disrespecting GENG but PRX have better strats and more noticibale game play that seperates them from other teams in the region. Oh yeaaaaa GENG won a trophy sorry i forgot about that ohhhhhhhh noooooooooooooo i cant rank them by their region ohhhhhhhh nnooooooo

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DBStudios

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where was any of this stated lmao only thing you said was

but PRX did beat them in one BO3 and one BO5 in stage 1

wtf is bro whaffling on about their strats being better as well you think a better strat team would end up 5th-6th at a LAN and the other being 2nd at Madrid and winners of Shanghai? lmao.

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H3ENnZ

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"best and worst team in their REGION RN" Yes I know u smarty pants that GENG won a masters trophy but they have to win a PAC trophy for me to put them ON TOP OF PAC AND I LITERALLY LISTED GENG AS THE RUNNER UP U DONUT READ BEFORE U SPEAK I SAID THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO PRX BUT FOR MY OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS I WILL PUT PRX ON TOP

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I agree with nobody__100 you have to be retarded

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nobody___100

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you dumbass, the post is "best and worst team in all regions rn"
it isn't "best and worst teams in all regions since 2021"
goddamn you're retarded

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geng will never get its flowers sadly, people don’t want to move on from prx and drx

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dort

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when was drx ever good

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nobody___100

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2022 champs top 3

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gordonramsay

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1300 posts in 3 months fat bum go outside. Ugly mfer AND you an NRG fan jesus christ

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dort

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i think i pissed off the apac fan 💀

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gordonramsay

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nah everytime I see you comment its some dumb shit. Fat mfer

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how stupid can 1 man be

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brahianv

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they lost two times to prx whats there to argue? that geng is better in global events? but seem plenty clear to me that they have not beaten prx

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H3ENnZ

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GENG has the flowers after they won the master and I admit that GENG is a great team but me personally i am going to put PRX on top

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we are what people think geng are, show respect

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H3ENnZ

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You are stupid af when you support a team that got owned by my team and bilibili u absolute stupid donkey this is my opinion u melon NRG will never win a trophy and there is a reason why u horrid NRG fan get outa my thread

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nobody___100

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bro is heated over a vlr post 😭😭😭

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H3ENnZ

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Im not heated lol why would I be heated over nobody__100's opinion when he supports a team that has no success in 2024

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brother your team was dogshit between 2021 reykjavik and 2024 madrid, a whole ass 3 year timeline
my fns is the goat since masters berlin, he's had 5 international top 4 placements, sen doesn't even have that many international appearances

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BulkyLettuce

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isnt sen the only team with 2 masters wins even while being "ass for 3 years"

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nobody___100

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first was a fluke, every member on that team fell off hard for 3 years
only tenz is relevant rn, maybe dapr will win ascension with oxg

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H3ENnZ

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OPTIC doesnt equal NRG without Yay ur team is dogpoop poop beat my team in stage 2 playoffs first (If u guys can make it)

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nobody___100

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blud's team was so bad that in 2023, fns and s0m had to show up with jerseys to lcq for you to win a match, and even then, you didn't make it to champs
sen fans talking shit after their team is good for one year is laughable

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H3ENnZ

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NRG fans tries to shittalk back SEN fans after their team got 0-2 and did not have a good champions 2023 run after getting destroyed by bilibili twice and have a horrid 2024 after failing to qualify to madrid because my team stopped them from making the grand finals, and then had a horrible stage 1 and could not qualify to playoffs (My team didnt either but my team was on top of u on the scoreboard) and then u lost ur first stage 2 team looooooooser

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you have never watched pacific or china

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never let bro cook again

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H3ENnZ

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I know i didnt list your favorite team 1st after they lost to a 0-5 team

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oh but you did list SEN after they didnt even make it to shanghai?
anyway, irrelevant im not even talking bout 100T

SEN is not the best team in americas
GENG is the best pacific team, idk why would u even put prx there after how geng played
EDG is no the worst in china

watch a game or two

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First im saying that "we will have to wait and see if sentinels is the best team in americas"
Second im saying "still a great team I would say they look as good as PRX" to GENG meaning that they are almost tied 1st place with minimum differences in my opinions
Third im saying that if EDG does not improve at all they have the potential to become the worst team bc everyteam around them are improving and evolving their strategies

Go watch a game or two? Buddy I watch way more VCT CN games than u when u cant even understand chinese. Go on bilibili and actually find a valid recap of EDG games and u will see my point donkey

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you make a post called "Best and worst team in all regions rn"
and then you go on and talk about the future and who will be the best if they play well
what happend to the "rn" part?

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??? since when I talked about the future. Oh yeaaaa i did say that EDG would become the worst team in the region if they stayed the same and does not improve because they have the TREND of becoming the worst team in the region, which are showing RN and they are losing RN to some of the worst team RN

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yeah and RN theyre not the worst ones
NOT YET

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How do you list EDG as a second option for best and worse 💀💀

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BECAUSE I USED TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEY LOOK SHIT IN BOTH LAN AND THEIR REGION THEY LOST TO THE TEAM THAT BOTTOMED THE SCOREBOARD IN STAGE 1 AND THEIR PLAYERS LOOK KINDA MEHHHHHHHH

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SEN... funny joke

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archetype

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Would you consider OpTic as not the best NA team then? Because they never won a domestic tournament lmfao...why is GEN.G runner up when they are the only trophy winners in Pacific and have only dropped 1 series internationally?

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not because they did beat other domestic teams too there so optic were really the best team also optic only lose 1 time to these teams not two

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archetype

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we just gonna forget that gen.g won a domestic (kickoff) and beat prx 3-1
yea gen.g lost to prx in stage 1 but game record wise its not like prx straight up own them yet. geng are 2-3 vs prx this year.

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Are u stupid archetype. OPTIC won a mater tournament and i would rank them on top in 2022, but now they arent even a team anymore. I literally said "still a great team I would say they look as good as PRX" I just think PRX is more dominant in their own region

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where did geng place at masters shanghai xd
bro said he would rank optic on top in 2022 when they won a masters but lost domestically, yet wouldnt rank geng on top in 2024 when they won a masters but lost domestically. shit gen.g even won kickoff, so they only lost 1 of 2 domestic tournaments so far. the 2nd time it went full 5 maps even tho prx got the 2 map ban advantage both tournaments.

double standards are crazy here

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GiantsX and Gentle Mates are close tied for the worst teams in the league right now for EMEA

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H3ENnZ

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Meh m8 is decent i wont call them the worst but they are close, respect the opinion tho i can see why ur saying that

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apac’s best and china’s worst are just not correct, geng is arguably the best apac team at the moment and tec/edg are not close to being the worst chinese teams, those being smth like wolves/ag/nova

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BLUD U NEVER WATCH A CN GAME EVER NOVA IS ACTUALLY COOKING IN THE SCENE THEY HAVE GOOD PLAYERS AND GOOD STRATS. ALL GAMERS DESERVES MORE FAME FOR THEIR PLAYS THEIR DUELIST PLAYER IS ACTUALLY COOKING ANYONE. WOLVES WERE THE WORST TEAM BUT THEY LITERALLY BEATED MF EDG IN A BO3 WHAT DO U WANT

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yep because one game makes edg the worst in the region 😭 jesus no bother arguing with someone like u

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"One game makes edg the worst" I didnt say that they are the worst but if "EDG does not wake up they will be stuck in a shit hole" They have no improvement when everyone in the scene is. They are still using the old double duelist comp on bind and brings them no value. Haodong Nobody needs to wake up for them to improve but they are not. No bother arguing with someone like you? Maybe watch more CN games before u try to give an opinion that i wont reject

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its a braindead sen fan, making other sen fans look bad as usual

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Theres a reason that u are a nobody get out of ur comfort zone and actually start looking at some chinese games buddy

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ag & nova farm rb and friends

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This guy is dumb af, just look at this thread lmao

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Also Guys thanks for all the fame this is only my opinion if u dont agree u could fight but dont call me "dumb af" at first glance, respect all ur opinions i called NRG shit as a joke (They are shit)

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FraudRX over GENG is ludicrous

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Sowwy