Flor is tier 1 end of story

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Cheasle2

If you don't think florescent is a tier 1 level player, you either:
#1. do not watch her play
#2. delusional
#3. are blind, thus refer to #1

She is mechanically better than 90% of franchise players and will dominate franchising when she is old enough.

Before you try to argue against this, check the above 3 points to see why you're wrong!

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JMZxp

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Tier 1 in Farmers League 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😛😛😛😛😛😛

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running it down on tier 10 shitters doesn't make you a tier 1 player

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Vegaaa

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running it down on t2 shitters does

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https://www.vlr.gg/298268/shopify-rebellion-vs-1337-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-1-top-32-lr4

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16-8 in FK and +15 is an incredible performance how do you think this makes her look bad

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OkOkay

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not to mention ions daycare a team for players in the come up (top of tier 3)

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you linked a game in which flor went +15 while her team didn't perform. how does this prove that flor is bad?

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"Flor is bad, look at this game where she had the highest performance out of everyone in the server"

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wow shes mechanically better she is so tier 1! (fns has shit aim and is considered one of the best igls ever, you also cant say shes t1 level when she farming t4)

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players who dont igl vs players who do igl

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EnterKey

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Actual end of story is if Flor plays in tier 1, game changers and challengers performance does not equal tier 1

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my-dad-ate-my-toes

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Why don't SR qualify to T2 then?

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because she needs to go 32-13 with +5fb for them to win a map? 💀
https://www.vlr.gg/300176/shopify-rebellion-vs-ions-day-care-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-2-top-3/?game=159861&tab=overview

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https://www.vlr.gg/298268/shopify-rebellion-vs-1337-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-1-top-32-lr4

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https://www.vlr.gg/159759/stealing-lunch-money-vs-sqn-2-0-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2022-november-playoffs-qf/?game=all&tab=overview

guys gulp this demon1 guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck

https://www.vlr.gg/29800/slick-vs-jaguares-esports-champions-tour-brazil-stage-3-challengers-3-opening-b

guys gulp this Aspas guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck

https://www.vlr.gg/11001/damwon-gaming-vs-muyaho-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-2-group-b

guys gulp this T3xture guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck

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kanyefan4238173

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LMAO ASPAS LOST TO LESS

great example bro!

also demon1 lost to tier 2 players, not tier 3 players

also t3xture lost to buzz wtf am i looking at 😂

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Cheasle2

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and Zakkv Tisora axedaddy and Cryy

you're calling that a tier 1 team ? XD

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kanyefan4238173

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hey retard can you lmk when i said that?

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Piter

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Axeddy literally a T1 player, played in franchises last year, Tisora still a really good T2 player in Brazil, the team aspas had was pretty dead

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nobody___100

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less and buzz ain't no tier 2 randoms

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kanyefan4238173

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and flor didnt even lose to tier 2 randoms. she got shut down (0-7 k/d) against momiji

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momiwho?

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who the fuck is momiji

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kanyefan4238173

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exactly LOL

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think he was in 1337, team with sonofcar when car was going crazy on chamber

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Cheasle2

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they were then? whats ur point

theres 2 billion threads glazing sonofcar. if he joins franchising will these losses be completely fine because he's not a tier 2 random?

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sonofcar is also overrated and hes not even tier 2

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teilwal

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bro one is in patch 8.01 (we in 8.11) and the others are 5s 3s and 2s bros actually hard reaching

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turkey

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Vro comparing stats from 2020-2022 to this year 😭

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Cheasle2

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the point im making is in 2-3 years from now she will be a completely different player
the same way Aspas, Texture and Demon1 were promisng players in 2020-2022 and are now the best of the best

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nobody___100

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32-13 with +5fb vs who? oxg? m80? ttr? no...
its ion's daycare 💀

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Cheasle2

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and they lose anyway because its a team game !

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my-dad-ate-my-toes

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You said she's better than 90% of franchised players, implying she's up there with trophy winning players and consistent top 4 at internationals level players. You'd expect someone of that calibre to put up generational levels of numbers against random nobodies in open qualifiers. Even bottom level franchised duellists like kamo could probably deadlift a team through open qualifiers and put up consistent 30 bombs. Flor is decent but she's nowhere near the top 10, 20 or even 50% of franchised players

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I can tell you only look at stats!

maybe watch her play before forming an opinion on how good she is ^-^

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Pointing at random off games from world class pros from upwards of 2 years ago does not discredit the notion that the top 10% of franchised players (which you claimed flor was a part of) could breeze past the open qualifiers to VCL. I have watched flor play. She is about on par with most promising looking t2 duellists. Aim diffing players who would struggle in premier in GC does not put you up there with the likes of aspas, t3xture and Demon1

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running jett and sova on bind 💀 literally a ranked game

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hemmy

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Your only reasoning behind him being a Tier 1 player is "mechanics"? Lol

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NASHiLOL

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you wont look bad farming woman

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Cheasle2

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She farms men too???

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Piter

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I refuse to believe people like you exist

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Convoy

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it's the most generic attention seeking rage bait

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Piter

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It is funny to be fair

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watching her play doesn't matter when she's in a farmers league

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laeDLaer

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holy fuck this forum is retarded

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nobody___100

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that includes you

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laeDLaer

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yes of course

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And you

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bigboy

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congrats on making the best bait of all time sir. you have my respect

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kanyefan4238173

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flor isnt a tier 1 player cause she doesnt play in franchising. hope this helps bra

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the only factually and logically correct post on the whole thread

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KlRBY

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Countless players have insane mechanics and are still performing like shit in tier 1. Florescent just isn't good enough which is why he stays in GC and doesn't join a T2 team

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let's go i am also tier 1 worthy then 🥳

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ButterflyEffect23

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MiBR.Bronzil when?

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bronzil_enjoyer

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when i move to murikas

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canopuszz

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Who paid you to defend someone who doesn't even know you exist?

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craziest bait oat

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acels

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flor will be as good as wo0t and oxy, their ranked stats r similar

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lmao i cant

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acels

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why not? im talking about mechanics

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lLoveMen

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Comparing florescent to woot and oxy is crazy

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nobody___100

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this is ridiculous even by sen fan standards

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acels

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NRG 💀💀💀😂😂

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nobody___100

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what? i've been consistently having it good. nrg fan first half of 2023, eg fan since tokyo, g2 fan for 2024, and now back to nrg fan because fns back + g2 place top 3

meanwhile your team finally stopped being washed after 3 years of bad results, and you think you're the shit?

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acels

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what in the bandwagon

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Dreoxx

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lowkey i don't agree with acels but your shit is omega bandwagoning

dawg stick to a team

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my-dad-ate-my-toes

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Might just be the most retarded statement ever said on this site

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acels

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ok my dad ate my toes

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jamONE

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L take. Until she actually plays for a T2 or T1 team. all of these "look at her stats" statements are meaningless. Just cuz someone is good in their own pond doesn't mean she's as good as the entire ocean full of T1/T2 players.

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Azzelastia

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They are downvoting you for telling the truth

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nobody___100

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anyways flor doesn't have a spot in tier 1 when demon1 is on the bench and there are over a dozen tier 1-level NA tier 2 players besides

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.

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You dont watch her play: yeah i watched florescent farming GC
Delusional: GC is what? Tier 5 max. SR who dominated GC got smacked out of challengers qualifiers. The teams florescent farmed are teams who probably will get 3 rounds max in challengers qualifiers
You are blind and refuse to accept: would like to ask you this question

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this is just pure delusion and cope not even a bait atp

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0/8

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Bro thinks SR deserves Tier 1 because they perform well on GC? I don't think everybody learned the difference between GC and T2-T1 male competition when G2 Gozen got stomped by male T1 teams. Also I remember when flor&SR played against T2-T3 Male teams, they got stomped... So I think It is not the time to call SR or any other member of it T1.

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Cheasle2

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I never said this
SR do not deserve tier 1, they are tier 3 or lower.

Florescent deserves tier 1

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heavensentsaint

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what has she done to prove she’s tier 1 😂😂

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911dot

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Thats what I was trying to say. Sorry for my bad english but in my opinion, she doesn't deserve tier1. Maybe GC IGL's could deserve T2 or rarely T1 but none of the entries deserve Tier 1.

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flor is good, but she's not tier 1 level yet

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Newzera >>>>>>>>>

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Even sk botsi clears flor

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No way flor is wayyyyy better than botssi

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Convoy

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no

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daily florescent thread

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LMAO

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Botssi clears.

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Flor gon' make SkRossi looked like prime Demon1🔥

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-icy +flor

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xd

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What strikes me the most is why isnt she playing in Tier 1 then
I dont argue with that she can be tier 1 pro but I cant accept your point as long as I see her competing in Tier 1
For your No.1 point: Sure she looks good when I watch her play, but she also plays against not tier 1 and not even against Tier 2 players so its easier to look good
Rest of your points are dumb so I wont refer to them

In addition I think you forgot they were trying to qualify to Tier 2 but they got knocked out quite fast and yea I can see you trying to make point that her team is not that good in comparison and thats maybe even true, but I feel like if she is looking so much better then surely some Tier1 or even Tier2 teams would pick her up

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Cheasle2

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she is only 17 so she isn't allowed to play in VCT

hasn't received any offers for challengers teams.

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milostoj

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We will see when she gets something then

If she can keep it up and develop further in Tier2 she has a chance, but I can not say she is Tier1 ready if she is loosing to random Tier3 teams like last time in T2 qualifier

I am sure if she wants to develop she has to try finding real team who can compete and reach Tier2, then we can judge
She is not making either Tier2 nor Tier1 with Shopify

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hasn't received any offers for challengers teams

Perhaps there is a reason for that

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Lia Thomas will not be allowed to compete in the Olympics, Good luck to everyone :))

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0/8

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easy to look good vs t4 players. GC = farmers league. there is a reason they always lose in round 32 or 16 every time in qualifiers against tier2 teams.

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we've said this about every player ever when they play in a vacuum like that. She might be tier 1 material, but I just don't think the skill gap in val is that wide.

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0/8

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i personally think she could make it in T2/T1, but to say that she is outright is weed smoker until she actually plays for one of those teams and proves it
to say that she could or couldnt as an absolute is dumb as bricks when there's zero basis for it anywhere