If you don't think florescent is a tier 1 level player, you either:
#1. do not watch her play
#2. delusional
#3. are blind, thus refer to #1
She is mechanically better than 90% of franchise players and will dominate franchising when she is old enough.
Before you try to argue against this, check the above 3 points to see why you're wrong!
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#6]Why don't SR qualify to T2 then?
because she needs to go 32-13 with +5fb for them to win a map? 💀
https://www.vlr.gg/300176/shopify-rebellion-vs-ions-day-care-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-2-top-3/?game=159861&tab=overview
Cheasle2 [#13]because she needs to go 32-13 with +5fb for them to win a map? 💀
https://www.vlr.gg/300176/shopify-rebellion-vs-ions-day-care-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-2-top-3/?game=159861&tab=overview
Cheasle2 [#13]because she needs to go 32-13 with +5fb for them to win a map? 💀
https://www.vlr.gg/300176/shopify-rebellion-vs-ions-day-care-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-2-top-3/?game=159861&tab=overview
32-13 with +5fb vs who? oxg? m80? ttr? no...
its ion's daycare 💀
nobody___100 [#16]32-13 with +5fb vs who? oxg? m80? ttr? no...
its ion's daycare 💀
and they lose anyway because its a team game !
Cheasle2 [#13]because she needs to go 32-13 with +5fb for them to win a map? 💀
https://www.vlr.gg/300176/shopify-rebellion-vs-ions-day-care-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-2-top-3/?game=159861&tab=overview
You said she's better than 90% of franchised players, implying she's up there with trophy winning players and consistent top 4 at internationals level players. You'd expect someone of that calibre to put up generational levels of numbers against random nobodies in open qualifiers. Even bottom level franchised duellists like kamo could probably deadlift a team through open qualifiers and put up consistent 30 bombs. Flor is decent but she's nowhere near the top 10, 20 or even 50% of franchised players
Cheasle2 [#13]because she needs to go 32-13 with +5fb for them to win a map? 💀
https://www.vlr.gg/300176/shopify-rebellion-vs-ions-day-care-challengers-league-2024-north-america-qualifiers-oq-2-top-3/?game=159861&tab=overview
running jett and sova on bind 💀 literally a ranked game
kanyefan4238173 [#14]
guys gulp this demon1 guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
guys gulp this Aspas guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
https://www.vlr.gg/11001/damwon-gaming-vs-muyaho-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-2-group-b
guys gulp this T3xture guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#19]You said she's better than 90% of franchised players, implying she's up there with trophy winning players and consistent top 4 at internationals level players. You'd expect someone of that calibre to put up generational levels of numbers against random nobodies in open qualifiers. Even bottom level franchised duellists like kamo could probably deadlift a team through open qualifiers and put up consistent 30 bombs. Flor is decent but she's nowhere near the top 10, 20 or even 50% of franchised players
#21
I can tell you only look at stats!
maybe watch her play before forming an opinion on how good she is ^-^
Cheasle2 [#21]guys gulp this demon1 guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
guys gulp this Aspas guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
https://www.vlr.gg/11001/damwon-gaming-vs-muyaho-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-2-group-b
guys gulp this T3xture guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
LMAO ASPAS LOST TO LESS
great example bro!
also demon1 lost to tier 2 players, not tier 3 players
also t3xture lost to buzz wtf am i looking at 😂
Cheasle2 [#21]guys gulp this demon1 guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
guys gulp this Aspas guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
https://www.vlr.gg/11001/damwon-gaming-vs-muyaho-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-2-group-b
guys gulp this T3xture guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
less and buzz ain't no tier 2 randoms
kanyefan4238173 [#23]LMAO ASPAS LOST TO LESS
great example bro!
also demon1 lost to tier 2 players, not tier 3 players
also t3xture lost to buzz wtf am i looking at 😂
and Zakkv Tisora axedaddy and Cryy
you're calling that a tier 1 team ? XD
nobody___100 [#25]less and buzz ain't no tier 2 randoms
and flor didnt even lose to tier 2 randoms. she got shut down (0-7 k/d) against momiji
Cheasle2 [#26]and Zakkv Tisora axedaddy and Cryy
you're calling that a tier 1 team ? XD
hey retard can you lmk when i said that?
kanyefan4238173 [#27]and flor didnt even lose to tier 2 randoms. she got shut down (0-7 k/d) against momiji
momiwho?
kanyefan4238173 [#27]and flor didnt even lose to tier 2 randoms. she got shut down (0-7 k/d) against momiji
who the fuck is momiji
nobody___100 [#25]less and buzz ain't no tier 2 randoms
they were then? whats ur point
theres 2 billion threads glazing sonofcar. if he joins franchising will these losses be completely fine because he's not a tier 2 random?
Cheasle2 [#34]they were then? whats ur point
theres 2 billion threads glazing sonofcar. if he joins franchising will these losses be completely fine because he's not a tier 2 random?
sonofcar is also overrated and hes not even tier 2
UsmanSy3d [#4]wow shes mechanically better she is so tier 1! (fns has shit aim and is considered one of the best igls ever, you also cant say shes t1 level when she farming t4)
players who dont igl vs players who do igl
Cheasle2 [#22]#21
I can tell you only look at stats!
maybe watch her play before forming an opinion on how good she is ^-^
Pointing at random off games from world class pros from upwards of 2 years ago does not discredit the notion that the top 10% of franchised players (which you claimed flor was a part of) could breeze past the open qualifiers to VCL. I have watched flor play. She is about on par with most promising looking t2 duellists. Aim diffing players who would struggle in premier in GC does not put you up there with the likes of aspas, t3xture and Demon1
Cheasle2 [#26]and Zakkv Tisora axedaddy and Cryy
you're calling that a tier 1 team ? XD
Axeddy literally a T1 player, played in franchises last year, Tisora still a really good T2 player in Brazil, the team aspas had was pretty dead
acels [#43]flor will be as good as wo0t and oxy, their ranked stats r similar
Comparing florescent to woot and oxy is crazy
acels [#43]flor will be as good as wo0t and oxy, their ranked stats r similar
this is ridiculous even by sen fan standards
acels [#43]flor will be as good as wo0t and oxy, their ranked stats r similar
Might just be the most retarded statement ever said on this site
jamONE [#44]L take. Until she actually plays for a T2 or T1 team. all of these "look at her stats" statements are meaningless. Just cuz someone is good in their own pond doesn't mean she's as good as the entire ocean full of T1/T2 players.
They are downvoting you for telling the truth
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#53]Might just be the most retarded statement ever said on this site
ok my dad ate my toes
acels [#54]NRG 💀💀💀😂😂
what? i've been consistently having it good. nrg fan first half of 2023, eg fan since tokyo, g2 fan for 2024, and now back to nrg fan because fns back + g2 place top 3
meanwhile your team finally stopped being washed after 3 years of bad results, and you think you're the shit?
You dont watch her play: yeah i watched florescent farming GC
Delusional: GC is what? Tier 5 max. SR who dominated GC got smacked out of challengers qualifiers. The teams florescent farmed are teams who probably will get 3 rounds max in challengers qualifiers
You are blind and refuse to accept: would like to ask you this question
nobody___100 [#58]what? i've been consistently having it good. nrg fan first half of 2023, eg fan since tokyo, g2 fan for 2024, and now back to nrg fan because fns back + g2 place top 3
meanwhile your team finally stopped being washed after 3 years of bad results, and you think you're the shit?
what in the bandwagon
ButterflyEffect23 [#31]who the fuck is momiji
think he was in 1337, team with sonofcar when car was going crazy on chamber
nobody___100 [#58]what? i've been consistently having it good. nrg fan first half of 2023, eg fan since tokyo, g2 fan for 2024, and now back to nrg fan because fns back + g2 place top 3
meanwhile your team finally stopped being washed after 3 years of bad results, and you think you're the shit?
lowkey i don't agree with acels but your shit is omega bandwagoning
dawg stick to a team
pambisito [#56]
16-8 in FK and +15 is an incredible performance how do you think this makes her look bad
pambisito [#56]
you linked a game in which flor went +15 while her team didn't perform. how does this prove that flor is bad?
Cheasle2 [#21]guys gulp this demon1 guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
guys gulp this Aspas guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
https://www.vlr.gg/11001/damwon-gaming-vs-muyaho-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-2-group-b
guys gulp this T3xture guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
bro one is in patch 8.01 (we in 8.11) and the others are 5s 3s and 2s bros actually hard reaching
Bro thinks SR deserves Tier 1 because they perform well on GC? I don't think everybody learned the difference between GC and T2-T1 male competition when G2 Gozen got stomped by male T1 teams. Also I remember when flor&SR played against T2-T3 Male teams, they got stomped... So I think It is not the time to call SR or any other member of it T1.
B1itz [#63]16-8 in FK and +15 is an incredible performance how do you think this makes her look bad
not to mention ions daycare a team for players in the come up (top of tier 3)
911dot [#68]Bro thinks SR deserves Tier 1 because they perform well on GC? I don't think everybody learned the difference between GC and T2-T1 male competition when G2 Gozen got stomped by male T1 teams. Also I remember when flor&SR played against T2-T3 Male teams, they got stomped... So I think It is not the time to call SR or any other member of it T1.
I never said this
SR do not deserve tier 1, they are tier 3 or lower.
Florescent deserves tier 1
Cheasle2 [#75]I never said this
SR do not deserve tier 1, they are tier 3 or lower.Florescent deserves tier 1
what has she done to prove she’s tier 1 😂😂
Piter [#48]I refuse to believe people like you exist
it's the most generic attention seeking rage bait
kanyefan4238173 [#12]flor isnt a tier 1 player cause she doesnt play in franchising. hope this helps bra
the only factually and logically correct post on the whole thread
heavensentsaint [#76]what has she done to prove she’s tier 1 😂😂
Thats what I was trying to say. Sorry for my bad english but in my opinion, she doesn't deserve tier1. Maybe GC IGL's could deserve T2 or rarely T1 but none of the entries deserve Tier 1.
What strikes me the most is why isnt she playing in Tier 1 then
I dont argue with that she can be tier 1 pro but I cant accept your point as long as I see her competing in Tier 1
For your No.1 point: Sure she looks good when I watch her play, but she also plays against not tier 1 and not even against Tier 2 players so its easier to look good
Rest of your points are dumb so I wont refer to them
In addition I think you forgot they were trying to qualify to Tier 2 but they got knocked out quite fast and yea I can see you trying to make point that her team is not that good in comparison and thats maybe even true, but I feel like if she is looking so much better then surely some Tier1 or even Tier2 teams would pick her up
milostoj [#88]What strikes me the most is why isnt she playing in Tier 1 then
I dont argue with that she can be tier 1 pro but I cant accept your point as long as I see her competing in Tier 1
For your No.1 point: Sure she looks good when I watch her play, but she also plays against not tier 1 and not even against Tier 2 players so its easier to look good
Rest of your points are dumb so I wont refer to themIn addition I think you forgot they were trying to qualify to Tier 2 but they got knocked out quite fast and yea I can see you trying to make point that her team is not that good in comparison and thats maybe even true, but I feel like if she is looking so much better then surely some Tier1 or even Tier2 teams would pick her up
she is only 17 so she isn't allowed to play in VCT
hasn't received any offers for challengers teams.
Cheasle2 [#90]she is only 17 so she isn't allowed to play in VCT
hasn't received any offers for challengers teams.
We will see when she gets something then
If she can keep it up and develop further in Tier2 she has a chance, but I can not say she is Tier1 ready if she is loosing to random Tier3 teams like last time in T2 qualifier
I am sure if she wants to develop she has to try finding real team who can compete and reach Tier2, then we can judge
She is not making either Tier2 nor Tier1 with Shopify
Cheasle2 [#21]guys gulp this demon1 guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
guys gulp this Aspas guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
https://www.vlr.gg/11001/damwon-gaming-vs-muyaho-champions-tour-korea-stage-1-challengers-2-group-b
guys gulp this T3xture guy had a bad game and lost to some randoms in tier 2... I think he might suck
Vro comparing stats from 2020-2022 to this year 😭
pambisito [#56]
"Flor is bad, look at this game where she had the highest performance out of everyone in the server"
turkey [#92]Vro comparing stats from 2020-2022 to this year 😭
the point im making is in 2-3 years from now she will be a completely different player
the same way Aspas, Texture and Demon1 were promisng players in 2020-2022 and are now the best of the best
Cheasle2 [#90]she is only 17 so she isn't allowed to play in VCT
hasn't received any offers for challengers teams.
hasn't received any offers for challengers teams
Perhaps there is a reason for that
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