EMEA = America's

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GKeepItReal

For now, they are about equal in strenght.

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you right. LEV + NRG + SEN + LOUD = FNC + TH + KC seems about right, more quality in emea but more quanitity in americas

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NAVI FUT VIT WILL STOMP ALL FOUR.

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Quite the contrary, unlike last year, EMEA has many good teams but lacks the "superteams"
I can see VIT, FUT, KC, TH, NAVI, FNC all winning a trophy.
But for NA its only LOUD, LEV, NRG and SEN are trophy contenders.

Overall NA is more top heavy but thats not a bad thing

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That was the case last year at champs aswell. EMEA was deeper at champs, both of our LCQ teams were better than Americas LCQ team, but our top teams were definitely weaker

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GKeepItReal

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Last year was a failure for EMEA, all of our teams (not counting FNC) got clapped by pretty much all regions.

It was terrible.

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Mortadelo

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Yeah we didn't have any other top tier teams, that doesn't mean the average level of the region was trash

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that's what that means. if all your teams besides one get rolled, that means the average level of your region is trash.

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Mortadelo

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No, the fact that your #1 and #2 are better than our #1 does not mean that your #4, 5, 6 is better than ours

All FNC, FUT, TL, NAVI and GIA were better than Americas #4 and arguably than NRG at champs aswell

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dude he was talking about last year?

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EMEA were 13-24 at international events in 2023 without fnatic
AMER without EG were 22-19
AMER without LOUD were 25-17
AMER without both were 13-14
edit: without Navi &FNC EMEA were 9-19

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Can’t really compare what the level of a team was throughout the year basing it on lock in, literally the first few games of the year

Other than that at Masters and champs you had 3 good teams as I stated before, and yes they were better than ours. But as I’ve been trying to say this whole time,, those 3 teams do not speak for the average level of a region, we can’t assume that Furia was better than Vitality

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if you take out lock\in:
EMEA is 6-15 at international events without FNC (28.6%)
AMER without EG were 14-11 (56%)
AMER without LOUD were 17-9(60.7%)
AMER without both were 5-6(45.5%)
without Navi and FNC: 5-11(31.25%)
The idea that besides FNC EMEA was a better region last year is some revisionist history lmfao

continue thread →

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idk 100t and EG are looking pretty solid. FUT and VIT I wouldn't say are trophy contenders right now but that may be because their cores have been heavily changed. I could see EMEA ending with KC TH NAVI and FUT being the top teams, FNATIC are lacking innovation and VIT's roster is < than FUT TH KC and NAVI imo. cNed needs to see shanghai though

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NA is not top heavy fool

We just saw SEN demolish KC

SEN played close against literally every team except MIBR while KC kind of dominated EMEA winning 2-0 in most games

This shows that NA has more teams on SEN’s level unlike KC who is a level above EMEA

NA is better than EMEA in quite literally every way possible

There is a world in which SEN doesn’t make it to Madrid while KC and TH got to madrid comfortably

100t NRG LEV have all proven that they are at the level of LOUD/SEN

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I don't think KC is a level above the other teams, even though the results were 2-0. KC and TH were new teams, but now other EMEA teams know what to expect from them.

FUT lost 1-2 to KC.

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FNC can still dominate if they change up their playstyle enough to not get hard read by others. KC showed how FNC has some predictable patterns.

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i know people wanna shit on FUT but being objective, they lost 13-10 13-11 to Heretics, who have proven they're pretty damn good

Then they lost 2-1 to Karmine Crop, including a 20-18 map loss

they're still a top team

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in yetujey i believe

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I disagree!!

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If Sentinels didn't whip and whoop KC's ass I would agreed but EMEA and AMER are still close really

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GKeepItReal

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It was close.

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Because of NA import carry and clutch, only one with 30 kills. Where was Farteen? 13-8 split isn't even close

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marteen had 10 entries where narrate had only 4
sh1n had a higher rating than narrate
sh1n had 22% higher KAST

but yes 30 big number :O

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replace n4rrate with ur best shitmea player and they dont even make an international

emea is finished now

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i mean personally id put americas at an edge but i think emea can definitely improve if they get their shit together, same goes with the other teams in americas but only time will tell

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emea are beyond horrid

no depth in 2023 besides 1 team that did really good and right now ur best team couldnt even qual cuz they think engh is retarded enough to not antistrat

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bro Chet tried to antristrat Sentinels Spilt(13-3). Loud and LEV all the same. Sentinels Spilt is just the best Spilt being played

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Chet the snake 🐍🐍 couldn’t anti strat billibilli what makes you think he could do it us 😂

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Sen > KC
Loud = TH(could make a case for either team imo)
NRG = FNC(either team could easily be the best in their region by split 1)
LEV > NAVI(NAVI troll to hard + Lev will only improve as time goes on)
100t > VIT(VIT have the potential to be rlly good but 100t have looked great so far)
EG > FUT(Potter + Jawgemo diff, it’s very close tho and u could make a case for fut as they played KC very close)
Mibr < KOI(Koi played pretty okay with flashes of brilliancy, I think overall they played better then Mibr)
G2 =< GIA(Both teams have high quality players who have made international lans but g2 are kind of a mess rn so gia are barely favourites, also Purp0 is insane but idk about the role moves, I would be a lot higher on this team if they also got b1sk)
C9 < M8(C9 has a potential to be good as seen in the off season but they have looked horrible so far while M8s almost beat vit and looked pretty good, I think the skill gap between the players is massive)
FUR > BBL(FUR roster moves are looking great, imo they won’t even be the worst team anymore. BBL doesn’t have the players nor the strategical depth to shut down Mwzera and now with nzr on the team I think they will support Mwzera far better)