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if sen lose tomorrow

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#1
michaelisupset

how many people on here are gonna call for pancada to replace zellsis again

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realvizierr
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Yistyy
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I've been saying that from the jump tho. Get that fraud zellpiss out man. Goatcada deserves it

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michaelisupset
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zellsis brings more to the team. unfortunate for pancada

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Yistyy
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No he is a choker and a fraud. When it comes to big games he will only disappoint you.

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michaelisupset
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it’s so funny that you only find this take on vlr

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Yistyy
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Nah it's just s0n fans only care about short term success, not winning tournaments. Putting your 6th man in (who is a shit player too btw) the second you lose doesn't fix anything.

Pancada would elevate this team so much, but be ignorant and choose to believe in zellshits. He will choke the second sen is about to qualify to masters.

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michaelisupset
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sen have been on a 9 series win streak ever since zellsis joined. and it’s not like he’s had 0 impact. I think you’re kinda dumb

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Yistyy
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9 series win streak

That's just lucky. The other players on sen are just too good + good gameplans.
He has impact, but the team would be even better with pancada.

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michaelisupset
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no. he wouldn’t pancada is a very good aimer but zellsis has good comms, good mechanics, good util, good energy, etc. sometimes good players aren’t good for the team.

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Yistyy
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sometimes good players aren’t good for the team.

pancada didn't even play his main role all year and you make this claim. Crazy.

pancada on role >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zellshits
any day of the week

#17
michaelisupset
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how is it being so blissfully wrong

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ItsHunter
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so youre claiming that pancada has bad comms bad mechanics bad util bad energy bad etc and somehow pancada is the one that had the third highest rating in champs and zellsis is the guy that hasnt achieved anything since V1.
It is true the guy chokes in big games its always happened since the V1 days, you just havent been watching him long enough. I love the guy but pancada is a fucking proven BEST SMOKES, hes literally a better marved

#21
scof
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pancadas not even that good lil bro. stop glazing

#24
Yistyy
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Say it on your main account pussy

#31
Semen-1
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how can you not understand that there may be other issues such as coms and team chemistry. I do agree that pancada is in every way, mechanically better than zellsis, but unfortunately he brings more to the team and what the team really needs

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ItsHunter
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and sen have only lost 1 game with pancada on this roster whats your point? The We dont have nearly enough proof that this team is even that good in the first place and on top of that we have no proof that zellsis is the one that is responsible for this improvement.
They were literally so rough around the edge when zellsis joined in its just time and experience, theyd be just as good with pancada on the team and tenz wouldnt have to be throwing on omen all the time. Especially on sunset i feel like we definitely need pancada cause that map is absolutely critical for the smoker to not be the first death. Haven is another one where Tenzs omen is gonna be their downfall cause he just doesnt understand the nuances of a smokes agent, thats something pancada knows all too well, the mf was top 3 rating in champs only behind yay and king

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KRATOSmimir21
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Every fake SEN fan + SEN hater

#34
ItsHunter
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Every fake SEN fan is supporting the snaking of pancada the goats main spot on the team

#8
Pengu12
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A lot of fans with one thing in common

#9
Orangepanda
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You just prove my points:
SEN bandwagons (not a real fans, see their flair) play books:

blame the IGL
Blame the coach
blame tenz
change the player
(this is the most disgusting) switch team until SEN show some good results

It must be hard to be a true SEN fan who silently cheers for his team

#11
Yistyy
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Rare W from you

It feel like sen fans don't even care about long term success. Shit org and shit fans. I feel bad for the players.

#35
ItsHunter
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when the org themselves dont care about long term success how can we? This isnt a move for long term success this move was based off of 2 showmatch wins, we havent seen them lose yet and mark my words the moment sen lose 2 or 3 matches in a row theyre gonna start scrambling the roster again

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cartixuzi
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Long term success has never been the goal for SEN and the ppl actually defending them like they haven’t been scrambling their roster since 2022 desperate af for results is crazy. I’m happy to see them win again but it’s just obvious that if they disappoint even for a bit then there’s gonna be a change in their starters.

#13
skatman
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first good take from the trash panda

#18
yungbasel
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If SEN lose tomorrow:

"It's just an off season tourney" <---- Every NA punk trying to diminish other teams' performances

#22
KRATOSmimir21
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Thats literally what EU fans said today about lulquid

#30
moatz
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No point of tryna argue with my fellow eu fans. Some of us r immune to reason

#43
yungbasel
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No, EMEA fans know liquid suck. Next

#28
WalmartTenz
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Getting more experience as a team against very good teams is far more valuable in an off season tourney than just trying to win. Trying new strats out like all the teams have been doing this entire tourney. If PRX do win then they were the better team, and I would say they deserved the win, Because they are also trying new things out.

#36
ItsHunter
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but even if sen win its just an off season tourney, realistically if PRX take it seriously SEN are gonna get wiped

#19
Manaphy
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It's a mickey meow bro. Shit is just a individual form check.

#20
LouBag
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PRX should be favored.

The fact that if Sen lose it will be a surprise is proof enough to keep this starting 5.

I just wish they would drop pancada already so we don’t have to listen to these idiots anymore. Kid clearly isn’t comfortable in a team from NA. Let him go back to Brazil and strengthen Furia so we have another Americas team that can stomp on EU.

#39
ItsHunter
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Pancada was put onto a new role in a dysfunctional roster... I wonder why he wasnt comfortable, I couldnt possibly find an answer to that question

#23
bronzil_enjoyer
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drop zellsis bring in pancada for the finals it'll be fun

#29
sussybaka
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It'll be easier for PRX 😋
#PRXWIN

#40
ItsHunter
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If PRX take the game seriously theyll win regardless

#25
Tkdan
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PRX was runner-up in Champions, SEN defeating them once is by far their best achievement in this tourney. It's a team that, since Masters, got defeated by FNC and EG. Even since they got to lowers they only stomped everybody. SEN is good if the match is close, I don't think they are favored, PRX has the edge on a BO5 and their whole unpredictability stuff.

#42
ItsHunter
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PRX are terrible in BO5s tho tbf so if SEN manage to even get 1 map they might very well be favoured towards the end. All PRX need to do tho if they wanna win is take the game seriously from the get-go make sure they secure map 1 cause their stamina is doo doo balls compared to every other team in their weight class.
Even so tho SEN beating PRX this tourney wasnt that impressive, it was mostly troll on PRXs part, they had terrible ideas on Breeze esp with running mindfreak on sova, then on top of that there were so many chances to win on Haven but they kept throwing as if they didnt know wtf was going on. They looked a lot more solid against FS, DRX, and T1

#26
loudsimp
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zelisis is a glorified gay stripper

#27
ppmcpoopoo
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drop tenz for pancada tf

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