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GC is humiliating their players

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#1
Nefarious_

By participating in GC, women and trans people just reassigning themselves to need extra opportunities to succeed. Riot must think they are doing something good by creating GC, but it just looks like a parent patronizing a child for being dogshit💩💩💩💩💩💩💩. Kinda humiliating no? 😮😮😮

#2
Manaphy
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The copypasta of hell.

#3
0fcuZ
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If they don't have GC then Valorant eSports will be heavily dominated by male pros just like any other eSports.

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Nefarious_
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Sounds like a skill issue

#7
heavnsent
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experience builds skill. no opportunity, no experience. no experience, no skill.

Please get a brain.

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Nefarious_
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Experience against trash competition does not build skill. How do these nobody tier 3 pros shit on GC players with no resources??? Instead of facing trash competition, they should participate in more Mickey Mouse tournaments against actually decent teams instead of staying within their perfect tier 5 world where they can dominate. You have to be put in hard situations to improve. That's why having a safety cushion just for being a woman/transwoman is not a good idea.

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OkOkay
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Yea but by having gc it incentivizes more woman to compete in general. Plus there are still scrims between those tier2/3 and gc. It’s not full isolation

#15
Nachtel
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bro the type to think dumping a baby into the ocean is the best way to teach it to swim

#17
Nefarious_
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Nah but the baby will never learn to swim if she's in shallow water forever.

#18
Nachtel
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the existence of a kiddie pool does not make one incapable of learning to swim in a deeper pool

the existence of a pool does not make one incapable of learning to swim in a lake

the existence of a lake does not make one incapable of learning to swim in the sea.

Gradual development only makes the process easier.

#19
Nefarious_
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GC cushions them. They should be climbing up the ladder just like every other male upcoming pro. Why should they make so much more than tier 3 pros when they are at a worse skill level than a lot of them?

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Nachtel
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With female/other player-bases, moving towards a co-ed t1 ecosystem requires riot to address one prevailing issue:

There's significantly fewer female/other players attempting to go pro in valorant than men

(For the simplicity of statistics, I'll only refer to Men and Women for now)
If, out of an average of 100 players trying to go pro, 50 were men and 50 were women, then there would already be co-ed teams in tier 2 and tier 1, just from climbing up the ladder through conventional means. Assuming only 2 of those 100 people even manage to scratch the surface of pro-play, then on average 1 would be a guy and 1 would be a girl.

However, that is not the case, and if you imagine the real ratio of men to women trying to go pro, then it's not surprising to find out that men are overwhelmingly more likely to become pros as a result; i.e. out of those 100 players, assuming a 90/10 split, then that's a <1% chance of either of those two players who break into pro-play being women.

GC serves two purposes:

  1. To promote esports among the existing female/other playerbases by providing them a stable ecosystem to play for a living. Esports in general is not exactly the most stable career choice to begin with; many women among other marginalized genders are reluctant to pursue Esports because not only is there no precedent of someone like them making it to the top, but even among the top there's barely any financial stability. By making them salaried professionals, GC allows female/other players to have hope of being paid to play video games one day aside from VCT. As a result, this ends up producing more female/other players in general that attempt to grind through the ranks to achieve that, thereby increasing the amount of women/others trying to go pro, and in turn moving that magical ratio to the ideal 50/50 split of men to women aspiring to be pro players.

  2. Develop existing talent to artificially boost the chances of a female/other player making it into tier 2 or VCT; it acts as a safety net that provides female/other players with more chances to prove themselves in professional environments whereas in the conventional tier 3 ladder they may have screwed up their only chance (tier 2 open qualifiers) or been dropped by their team for bad performance and never given an chance to improve. It's not like they're mutually exclusive either, V1/SR is always playing in Tier 3 whenever possible, from Knights weeklies to NACL open qualifiers. They aren't "stuck" in GC or "not trying to get out of the kiddie pool"

#23
Zeah
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allat

#14
Genieinthebottle
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Bro why people downvoting this, he's speaking the truth

#10
0fcuZ
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"Sounds like a skill issue". Bruh why do you think there are different gender demographics in other sports? Like WNBA, and Women World Cup? It's obvious that even in eSports atm most male pros are more stronger than of female, and other minority genders but those will change more quickly since esports doesn't have physical advantage than others so we just need to give a bit more times for GC players to get Lan experience and prove themselves to get into tier1.

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ZettGundam
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I disagree coz Leo Faria did say that the GC championship wasn't meant to be the End Goal for GC players, they want them to play in the main VCT which is why there was a major setback in terms of budget for GC despite there being a huge audience for it. (TBH i just think they want to spend less on GC but thats a story for another time)

#6
Nefarious_
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We both know GC will still exist ten years down the line to farm viewership from woman

#21
EyeZick
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Unfortunately it looks like until a GC team qualifies for any challengers anywhere this will be the peak of their game

#9
realcavemanshit
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most obvious bait of the century yawn

#11
Dokka
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Stupidest shit ever
There is fundamentally no path to pro for women in valorant even if there was an abundance of T1 talent
Game changers is a way to give a group of people who would never get a shot, a place to shine, and maybe shine enough to try to break through into tier one

#12
ToastByToast
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what is bro blabbering about

#16
Omega_KEKW
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This generation is quite impressive. In my times canadians didn't use to be douches

#20
ash_knuckles
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what is blud waffling abt

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