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talon ruining thai talent

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#1
kirito5133

they ruining one of the most talented apac sub region. theres so much talent there but they decided to get governor. they are trying to get us market. they are getting governor for his brand than his player ability. they are forcing english by getting 3 english speaking player and getting rid of the people who cant speak english. thats also one of the reason i believe why they got ban and lenne. ban and lenne are talented players who deserve in franchise but talon is not the team for them.

#2
omsinzz
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I think it riot fault to make hongkong org running thai spot

#3
kirito5133
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you guys got this. win the ascension and you can get your much deserved spot :D free for you

#31
frappzlul
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Full Sense is my favorite for pacific ascension yall got this

#4
thatpower
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it’s same for t1. i’m pretty sure izu and K1ng won’t play until they speak good enough english even though they’re way better than bottsi and xccurate. this fetish for english speakers needs to stop

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i will wait on that. i dont believe or i dont wanna believe that rossy is starting. my dream is roster is izu xeta saya k1ng and xaccurate/carpe.

#7
thatpower
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autumn said that rossy is in the starting roster. it’s joever bro

#8
kirito5133
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decision can change. theres still a few month left before the actual season start. i dont care about the off season. i need that in the regular season. we deserve that roster.

#33
YeaUrMum
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Botssi catching strays 🗿

#25
s0ber
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how is botssi getting dragged in this lmfao

#28
thatpower
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i meant rossy. their names are similar so i naturally said botssi on accident lmao. i don’t even hate skrossi or anything it’s just fun saying botssi

#39
bilim
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saying bottsi 🗿 is fun

#5
number1_cned_hater
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TLN looked like a promising team in Lock//in after that they kinda fell off

#9
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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They looked miraculous in lockin and then fell so hard they turned into a laughing stock

inverse EG

#10
napppt
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Maybe because patiphan comeback from injury(I think he’s in the main rolster before lock//in) and lock/in roster play that good so coach can’t decide 5 main roster. they mess up with 6th man rotation map by map.

#11
capital_d_colon
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This is how I see it.

The partnership system has created an awkward environment where T2 orgs are protective of their players due to the immense rewards of ascending and player values in general (which is normally fair in most cases).
Where as some partnered teams are unwilling to fork the money out for the buyouts due the lack of pressure from relegations and the current esport climate etc.

Would talon be able to get thai players on the same level as ban-lenne-governor with no buyouts? I don't think so.

At the end of the day it becomes a tight middle ground in fielding a competitive roster, cultivating regional talent and remaining sustainable.

#12
kirito5133
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i disagree. they have patiphan who is better than lenne governor and ban. sushiboys who is insane on sentinel. they already had garnets who is insane. they just downgraded their roster for more profits. its nothing more than that.

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19svgz
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I mean patiphan is going through some shit so hes not available rn

#16
kirito5133
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what do you mean by that? is it the same injury or personal issue

#20
19svgz
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Mental health

#15
capital_d_colon
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Changes were needed in Talon.
Placing 9th in Pacific and winning 1 game in the LCQ does not warrant a roster staying together.

You could argue that these might not be the right changes but it is way too early to tell.

#17
kirito5133
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changes were needed in talon but a team running 3 duelist is not the team problem but the coaching system problem. plus foxz was getting out and they stick patiphan garnets sushiboys crws jitboys or kick one more person out and get kadoom qq or many more talented thai players. not a na player who wasnt even the best duelist in tier 2.

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Hyopic
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homie governer catching strays

#21
kirito5133
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i would prefer thai talent over play in relegation winner who wasnt even the best player in his own team.

#22
Hyopic
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All good, I don't think governer should have gone to Talon from purely a Thai talent perspective, but I want to see him get better since hes a very solid duelist player. I think part of the issue is rooted in the fact that NA has only 5 slots. I don't think Governer would go to Pacific if NA had 10 slots and SA had 10 slots but thats my 2 cents

#23
kirito5133
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its not governor fault. he had chance and he took it. its the org fault for not giving the chance to their talent. governor is a great guy and a great player too. he took his chances. good luck to them. but i feel like this roster is doomed to fail because i dont know if the thai players can speak english good enough to comm at the top level.

#14
sternritteR
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RRQ momentos wkwkwk

#18
Kirya
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my bad

#24
iframedeez
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my GoatOlsen deserve better 😞😞😞

#26
fapcity
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always thought thai was one of the most stacked SEA subregions. Dont know why they signed 2-3 imports....

#27
Melloaw
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Left over imports that no one wants

#29
LouBag
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Talon lose in overtime and everyone freaks out.

Ban basically carries the team (most people probably forget he started in NA)

Everyone with small brains be like: “ohhhh no Thai scene is doomed and Talon are idiots!?!?!?!?”

#30
kirito5133
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I would have made the post regardless of the result. It's because they are forcing to comm them on English when there's so many good Thai duelist like kadoom and the person diff them johnolsen are there. Even patiphan and garnets has proven more than governor. I didn't say anything mean about lenne and ban as I said they deserve franchise spot but this was not the roster because there's alot of talented player waiting to get the much deserve chance.

#32
napppt
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They fight really hard with FS to got this slot. But all they can do in just sign F/A that not even better than player that they kick especially Garnets. Ban is good pickup but lenne that sub for TS all season? Gov that not even top duelist in t2 scene? Is that the best they can do?

#34
100tkcN
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hot take but patiphan ruined 2023 season. Now they downgraded the roster, but making it english is good, just need the right coach/players.

#35
Marcusgeez
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trash ass org
i thought RRQ are the worst franchising team
until i found Talon, feels bad for Thai fans honestly y'all were so dominant in the APAC scene until the franchising. it is what it is

#36
bearmans
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nah RRQ is still trash because of last year shenanigan.
it's just talon that tanked their reputation.

#37
Yistyy
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No, its completely justifiable. It's not Talon's fault that NA has the best talent.

#38
Stratos
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Talon basically pulled an RRQ but for the Thai Talent pool.

Putting the entire Asia into one VCT regional league was something I still never liked about this franchising model.

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