How is iso ult not good?

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Or at the very least decent
Literally can eliminate lineup larrys in postplant as ct.

Also it's so easy in a 1v1 postplant with cheese jiggles and jumppeeks when it's planted far away so this ult can eliminate that

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its just not

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or you lose the 1v1 and its gg

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It’s not just a 1 vs 1 tho, you have a massive adcventage

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Better chances at a favourable 1v1 than the scenarios I just mentioned

Also I feel like it's like a 70/30 chance to win considering they have to flick a fair bit while you just have to adjust slightly

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you have an advantage yes, I wouldn't say it's 70/30 at all

point still stands, you can lose the 1v1 and it's gg

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You can also die while entering a site with Jett so what is that supposed to mean?Or with Raze/ Reyna/Neon, same concept

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you have a much better chance with raze or reyna or even neon than with iso

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We’ll have to see that you have to get outplayed very much to lose the duel. But regardless the difference is that you can take this duel without exposing yourself to being killed by a third person unlike with the other 3

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Bro clearly has not played against a KJ or Cypher in a rank above Plat.

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Jett dash isn't an ult + your team can trade you

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I mean entering with ult

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Jett ult is used on eco rounds and you can get more than 1 kill, no matter what the max amount of kills Iso can get with an ult usage is 1 and he needs to be on a buy and he can die and completely waste the ult and possibly throw the round that way

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on top of that reyna has blind and neon has concuss. iso just has a wall that goes down and doesnt even slow

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Iso wall is really strong tf you mean

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his other abilities cant give him and advantage the instant a fight starts. idek if fragile status does anything to the opponent

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that wall can also be countered with a molly on reaction because its slow af to fully activate and it is very thin

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Also we’re assuming we both have rifles, this is a massive counter to Operators

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or they hit the shot with the Op and you lose

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They have to either make the quickscope/flick of their lives or guess exactly where you are which is not likely. If your argument to anything is gonna be he can die that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard

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I don't think you realise how shit it is to have an ult that gives you a barely favoured fight. Think about Raze ult, scares most people out of the site + if you do see someone and they stay to fight you, you're pretty likely getting 1 and the whole site even if you die. Jett ult gives you a gun on eco rounds that is 100% accurate when moving, self-explanatory why that is good. What does Iso ult give you? A 1v1 with maybe 60/40 odds at best? Plus the rest of his kit isn't that good in the first place? It is a gimmicky ult that is in no way reliable which is incredibly important have a good ult in Valorant

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We'll have to see, I really do not think you're seeing the potential. Let's wait then

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it is if you have cracked aim just see the derke video i think he explains it really well

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It's work in lower ranks below plat.

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Or even to entry, would you rather to enter a site wags instead a cypher string holder, dash in with Jett knives or Iso ult??? I think iso ult is much better

People are not seeing the potential

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when like 3 people play on the site then he can only ult one and the rest of the team has to entry against two without duelist

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He definitely won't be used as a solo duelist tho

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First of all you’re supposed to enter the site with 2 people not the one with 3, and it is very often than when you enter a site is not a 5 vs 5 anymore.

And wdym your team has to enter the site without a duelist?

Also you can throw your utility and then ult, helping your teamates either way

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but you dont know if 2 or 3 people are site most of the time

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midfrag in low diamond take sadly

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Mutt 2-0 T10

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Like imagine you are aspas and just ult fns lmaoo

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Also underrated use, ult the Operator. He literally has to gamble where you’re gonna be or make an insane flick

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Niche scenario and I believe you can dodge the ultimate like the deadlock ult.

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tls127

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It's almost instant tho. I feel like if you were to dodge it would be more of the enemy iso missing than you actually dodging

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Niche scenario= not good but also not bad

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tls127

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Definitely not niche. Post plant mollies and lineups legit happen every time esp since in pro play they play retake instead of fighting for site

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very situational and i can't imagine winning that 1v1 to realize you need to still kill the rest of the enemy team lmao

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The ult is not bad but you need the skill to win the 1v1

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Get a kill, shoot the shield, immediately ult them.

You enter the Ult with a peak advantage and a hs shield.

You open the round with 2 kills.

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Not everybody is silver where players bait each other, in higher ranks and pro play people trade each other. Once you get a kill the second guy who is with the one you killed wont wait for 5-10 seconds to let you take the shield, and then let you use ult. He will peek and kill you while you're doing the ult animation or will play retake with the rest of his teammates.

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It's OP when used correctly. People who say it's bad are the same people who thought Deadlock ult were any good aka below plat folk.