TOP 10+2 TEAMS IN VAL HISTORY

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LOUD
FNATIC
ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
GAMBIT/M3C
EVIL GENIUSES
ACEND
FPX/NAVI
PRX
DRX/VS
SENTINELS
- 1. TL
- 1. KRU

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they have soulcas

so they are the real goat team

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only reason they're above KRU is Emea League

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pretty accurate list good job, would place acend lower though

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Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters
but is close

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FPX/NAVI way too high

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PRX and DRX 0 titles
SEN is nothing since that Masters

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so were FPX, they got outclassed the very next tournament after their title, then they trolled a whole year as NAVI, while PRX/DRX have been consistently top teams for 2 years now

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NAVI qualified to Tokyo and LA
also say that PRX choke 2 finals and DRX didn't even get in a final
so FPX make a LOWER BRACKET RUN and win a PRX that is the biggest choker ever

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qualifying to an event over winning regional titles and being perma top 6 in said events is crazy

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is crazy meing top 6 and never winning
thats the real crazy thing

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then SEN above DRX/PRX

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are you crazy?
FPX made a top 4 in champs after being champions of Masters
SEN..... NOTHING (1 tournament team)
also is the worst masters ever
NO GROUP STAGE, NUTURN, VERSION1, SHARKS

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they lost at their peak to the teams below them and then fell off while they stayed at the same level, historically DRX and PRX are better

also SEN finished top 6 their next tournament and played in Champs

the real order is: PRX>DRX>FPX>SEN

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top 8*
and only played Champs because they win Masters and had a easy group (no Bren, F4Q, G2(0-13 vs Gambit))
and even they were 2nd in the group

continue thread →

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they made top 4 at next tournament

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lost to DRX, which apparently is historically worse than them

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they won against them in the previous tournament and still beating the other teams to get to top 4 is still impressive

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not saying it isn't, just saying PRX and DRX are historically better

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doesn't make sense to put NRG n Optic in the same spot they're different teams

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is just to make them still alive
and because in 2024 +yay -Ardiis is happening

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You need to put eg higher than gambit imo

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pongo a Gambit mas arriba pq tuvieron al GOAT en su equipo (Chronicle), porque dieron el mejor partido de la historia (VS KRU)

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dont disrespect gambit you dog

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Im not saying to kick them of the list, im saying to swap their places

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Prx should be higher than acend

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0 titles
2 chokes

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acend 1 international tournament
prx - 6

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nrg/envy aren't comparable to optic imo

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Envy is litterally the same team and the same org, only change the name
NRG making +yay and being the same team only with -Marved +s0m

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resultwise i mean. nrg went 0-4 against bilibili and I concede the fact that envy were good, but 22 optic were just on another level of dominance

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is like saying VS is not DRX or M3C is not GAMBIT
are the same thing, 2022 was PRIME OPTIC but it don't means 2021 and 2023 wasn't optic
Chamber Meta made them the best

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again, speaking resultwise. what did vs or m3c accomplish? no doubt they were good teams in their own regard, but the name that they rose to fame with were drx and gmb respectively.

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DRX rose to fame with VS by +100 matches in a row without losing
M3C changed name because Russia things

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just put envy/optic nrg has two different players

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is like only making roster changes
FNATIC still the same without doma, Mistic, Magnum, Enzo
also in 2024 is -Ardiis +yay so is the same thing

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no it’s not it’s like picking up 3 players if Sen sign aspas does that mean they are loud?

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If you think about it, EG only won because LOUD cleared the way for them
they eliminateD FNATIC, EDG, TL, NAVI and bled PRX.
maybe if lowers wasnt so unforgiving when it came to time the result would be different, but, either way congratulations to potter

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LOUD is the biggest team ever
so congratulations for being the only one with 2 podiums in Champs

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yeah but we cant deny the fact that eg could beat these teams, either way they are the champions of the year

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prx lower than fpx/navi????
wtf is acend doing here

never let this guy cook

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PRX------ 0 TITLES
ACEND is a world champions wtf are you talking about
FPX/NAVI made a lower bracket run and win the chokers(PRX)

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you're actually braindead

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i mean, you're a PRX fan so i respect you can't say FPX/ACEND>PRX

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ACEND... just dont reply to me

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Acend has a CHAMPIONS

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EG 1st champ and 2nd place masters > Gambit 1st place master and 2nd champs.

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Gambit(1st place Masters, 2nd Champs, Chronicle(GOAT), nAts(Valorants creator), BEST MATCH EVER(VS KRU), best play ever (Chronicle ace vs KRU), 2nd greatest comeback in International events (VS VIKINGS))
thers a lot of difference there bro

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what?

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"EG is a world champions wtf are you talking about"

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dont put me out of context
it was comparing a 0 trophies with a world champion
this is comparing a Masters winner with a World Champion
and the Masters winner has some things that makes it bigger

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Champs is the biggest tournament
so i think is> lower bracket run in Masters

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me too Acend>FPX/NAVI

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glad we agree, move EG above Gambit/M3C then. they have a Champs win.

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you said lower bracket run
Gambit didn't do that, i put my points why Gambit>EG
is not only Masters and Champs
is THE GOAT, THE BEST MATCH EVER, THE BEST CHAMPS COMEBACK, THE BEST PLAY EVER, thats it. i think EG doesnt have this

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i literally quoted you again. Champs is more important than Masters. EG won champs. Chronicle is great, he's not the goat. Demon1 (can't stand the guy) is currently the best player in the game. Chronicle may have been a year or two ago.

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EG > gambit. both 2 grand finals and one win but EG won champs

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fnatic>loud

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Loud is the only team made 2 podiums in Champs and win 1 of them
Loud 2-1 Fnatic

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🫵🤡

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Top 3 is very accurate but the rest is hard to say, from the 4th to the 8th I feel that anyone could be in any position, in all cases EG>ACEND

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