Is bizarre to think that the weakest team they faced till now is Liquid (Champions of VCT EMEA). What a hard path.
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that guy is a bait
even as a biased fnatic and emea fan, I never said FNC had the hardest path. kinda disappointing for them to have such ez matches and still lose to LOUD. thas why I have said that LOUD DRX and NAVI are definitely top 6 at this tournament and that PRX and EG have had such ez matches so thas why they might be lucky to win against LOUD and DRX in uppers who had to show so much this tournament in their matches.
No team has had an exceptionally hard path thus far. That's my point. Was Louds path the "hardest"? Probably (I think at this point its between them and EG and both have an argument). Does that mean it was objectively hard and something that's worth all these threads? No chance. They've beat two top 50% teams and two bottom 50% teams (in the tournament)
EG - FPX, FUT in group. FUT > Navi. FUT > Liquid. FPX < Navi. FPX < Liquid. EG - EDG, DRX now PRX in playoffs. Only difference here is that EG hasn't played FNATIC in playoffs. Part of that is because they didn't lose like Loud did. Obviously a lower bracket run is harder than an upper bracket run. This is obviously too close to home for you as you cant remove yourself emotionally from this
I don't really understand what you're thinking tbh. EG opponents were FPX, FUT, EDG, DRX. Strongest opponents on that list in my perception are EDG/DRX. All the other teams have opponents that match those and exceed the others. PRX is the one team that is close. Both PRX/EG beat FUT and EDG. But I think with top 4 settled, most would see LOUD/KRU to be overall more challenging than DRX/FPX but honestly it's close.
With Fnatic/Loud, I don't think it's comparable and I'm not sure what you're confused about. Especially with Loud.
The fact that you've admitted its close is my point. There's some assumption that EG had the unanimous easiest path when in reality thats not the case. Your entire paragraph lends itself to that point. I guess you're not understanding what I'm saying so Ill summarize.
1) EGs path was not significantly less difficult than that of the other remaining teams (outside of the need to play in lowers). Do I think EG has a STRONG argument for most difficult path? No, but it exists. I thought that was apparent when in my post I said Loud probably had the hardest path.
2) Louds path was not so difficult that it warrants the number of threads I've seen recently discussing how this is the hardest path anyone has ever seen (I'm being hyperbolic)
Yea, Loud path wasnt so difficult, they only had to face Fnatic (favorite to win the event(twice)) , PRX (probably the 2nd team expected to win), meanwhile for EG the hardest matchup they had was against DRX/EDG(which loud also faced).
EG's matchups only got hard now that they're already top 3 at the event.
I do understand your point. But even as an EG fan, I disagree. Do i think EG's path was significantly less difficult than the others? Not in the case of PRX and thinking about it more maybe(big maybe) Fnatic.
But loud? Loud had to contend with Liquid, DRX, and NAVI in groups. Obviously liquid didn't show up in good form but both NAVI/DRX looked good. Then in playoffs, Fnatic, PRX and EDG. Both PRX and Fnatic were tournament favorites on paper coming in and now they're in top 4. I think making a thread about it is dramatic but completely understandable, that is definitely a hard path when considering how strong people perceive all these teams as.
Also, I don't think there's any argument at all for EG having the most difficult path. To suggest it sounds ridiculous tbh.
You're allowed to disagree. Not really going to continue talking about the "EG having the most difficult path" section. It was (obviously) not my main point, and is something everyone seems to now be fixating on to avoid talking about my actual points. It doesn't really look like you're disagreeing with points 1/2 outside of that, though
Lil bro there isn't a single person in this thread that agreed with you (even EG fans think you're delusional), and if i think that Na'vi or Liquid would made out of group A if PRX and EDG were there, probably not, but if you swaped groups between any of them then yes, cus the other two teams there wer KRU and Giants, also group B (EG group) was by far the easiest followed by Fnatics group.
Were you going to continue to fixate on the whole "EG ARGUABLY having a harder path" part the whole time? Obviously wasn't my point and your continuous fixation on this is telling that you don't really have a solid argument elsewhere. Also, Navi got 3-0d by Giants. So what, were going to remove two of PRX/EDG/GIA for Liquid/ Navi? Just creating a whole new group to fit your narrative I guess
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