every regions top 5 teams of all time

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gutszeraa

Not counting first strike teams, must have played in an international LAN

EMEA:

2023 Fnatic
2021 Gambit
2022 FPX
2021 Acend
2021 Fnatic

Americas:

2022 LOUD
2022 Optic
2023 LOUD
2021 SEN
2023 EG

APAC/China

2022 DRX
2023 PRX
2022 PRX
2023 DRX
2022 ZETA ? lol

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Dolphin

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You called sen better than current eg????

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jawn

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trophyless team

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gutszeraa

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2022 LOUD

2023 LOUD

2021 SEN

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oblvs

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fair but xset 2022 could take sens spot imo

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jkjkjk

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what? how? why? they've accomplished nothing compared to sen 2021

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oblvs

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k but xset would clear them ngl

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gutszeraa

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you could argue that 2022 xset might be worse pound for pound in every single role other than smokes compared to 2021 sen, not even just comparing trophies

2021 tenz>>>2022 cryo
2021 dapr>>>>2022 ayrin
2021 shahz>>2022 dephh
2021 sick<<=2022 zekken
2021 zombs<<2022 ayrin

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Vaibhav

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2021 sick >> any NA flex

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gutszeraa

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domestically and at iceland he was insane but his form in berlin and champs was kinda mid

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jkjkjk

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prime sen vs prime xset would not even be close, not sure what you're on

xset only managed to reach 7-8th (in which they went 0-2 at masters copenhagen) and 5-6th (in which they did ok at champs 22, but mainly due to hard carrying from zekken and cryo, the team itself was not that good) at international lans

and no, I'm no sentinels fan... it's just facts

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oblvs

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underdeveloped meta made sen 2021 look way better than they were

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jkjkjk

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let's be real... xset is comparable to 100t at international showings (even if 100t reached top3 at a masters), placing them over sen 2021 makes absolutely no sense, unless you're smoking something really good

you're overestimating xset a lot

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oblvs

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ok

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lucifer0922

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I mean 2022 PRX reached finals over 2022 DRX, but whatever

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tls127

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Getting grouped doesn't help your argument.neither does having an automatic pass to the playoffs

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skitozeraa

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how is 2022 prx #3 when they are the only apac team to reach a grand final (and almost won)

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gutszeraa

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because they got grouped by lulquid in champs but honestly 2022 prx is interchangeable with 2023 prx. theres some slight projection cuz i think prx will place highly this event

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its cuz champs > masters

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Zaynio

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2023 ain't even over yet. Also, imo 2023 EDG > 2023 DRX > 2022 Zeta. And 2023 PRX > 2022 DRX (so far); iirc, DRX looked a tiny bit shakey before champions run.

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2022 prx is better than 2022 drx imo.
Prx had a very good chance at winning a title.
Yeah if we talk about averages and consistency drx wins but peaks are the most important imo.

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You have to consider the context on how much better the quality of champions was in 2022. Almost every team got better for champions compared to Copenhagen

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KanyeAsada

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Lol if you’re basing it off trophies, put SEN above 2023 LOUD. If you’re not basing it off trophies but form instead, move EG above SEN

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gutszeraa

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and can you explain to me why i cant consider both in my criteria? lol

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Astar

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5th apac should be 2022 xerxia they're pretty consistent to qualify every international event or just put 2023 EDG ofc

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MauuMita

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kru 2021 > sen