top 20 | VLR.gg

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mysterii

if u had to make a top 20 for the 2023 VCT (like HLTV)
what would yours be?

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LyCan52

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yay

#3

mayonnaise_on_escalator

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If fnatic win once again and alfajer becomes top kd he deserves to be the #1, you can't make a list before champions sadly

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The_Cleg

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Leo
Alfa
Chronicle
aspas
Jinggg
MaKo
Derke
Less
d4v41
f0rsakeN
Ethan
Shao
Boostio
Demon1
s0m
Sayf
Jawgemo
Something
Boaster
Kangkang

HMs: BuZz, rb, xeta, suygetsu, nAts, FNS, crashies, victor, c0m, mindfreak

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mysterii

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would you really put aspas that high after his performance at masters?

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The_Cleg

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He didn't play bad at masters lol, loud did. Look at his stats compared to other loud's players, he was hard carrying.

Also, Jingg didn't perform at lock//in, MaKo on masters, Ethan in lock//in etc. Not many people were consistent in both titles we had this year

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unknown_trash

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But there were definitely players who were good at locking and during the regular season and now at champions, but didn't perform at tokyo. Although yes aspas has been consistent at every point in the year.

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cholikarr

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His team got destroyed in both games and he still statistically was 3rd in acs

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queueK

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ethan too high (and there's two of him)
something too low
s0m shouldn't be there
kangkang should be there
mako should be there

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The_Cleg

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Ethan top ~10 is fine with me
Something only played a regional league
s0m should be there, his team was the only consistent team in both lock//in and Tokyo (besides FNATIC ofc) and he was the best player for the team
Added kangkang
Mako is top 6

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Propenko

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where is mindfreak ??

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LyCan52

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blud forgor he exists kkkkk

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The_Cleg

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Forgot him, probably not top 20 but incredibly close

#12

diswaco

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objectively mindfreak > s0m

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Krivix

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do not ever disrespect my pookie wookie bear sammy like that

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The_Cleg

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Objectively s0m's team performed better than mindfreak's team in lock//in and were almost equal to mindfreak's in Tokyo.

In VCT americas s0m was one of the best players while mindfreak was just very good (in PAC).

Also mindfreak was the worst player for PRX in lock//in and VCT pacific and 2nd worst in Tokyo for his team, while s0m was 2nd best in lock//in and best in Tokyo (by a mile).

Also s0m statistics own mindfreak's fr.

After champs if NRG disappoints this could change

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diswaco

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"s0ms statistics own mindfreaks fr" mindfreak is the second highest rated player in the tourney rn after playing against kru and edg, 2 tough opponents. s0m played against blg and look where he is now

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The_Cleg

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Bro is really basing an argument for the whole 2023 only on 3 games

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#19

Alex_From_Texas

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blud talking about stats after 2 games, this is top players 2023 not top players in champs

#20

The_Cleg

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Thanks

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QaWzy

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I think eg players r rated too low considering that they did place 2nd at tokyo they should at least have some in top 10, Personally I would swap ethan and less and aspas and derke

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The_Cleg

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Well they only played 1½ tournaments well across the 3 tournaments we had this year (lock//in, leagues, master/LCQ), while other teams (and players) were more consistent (loud, drx etc) and also it's hard to attribute all the success just to one player so it's more spread out and as a consequence they are all lower.

As champs will finish though, I'm sure they'll have 1 or 2 players in the top 10

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catmeister

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Alfajer
Leo
Chronicle
Jinggg
Derke
MaKo
aspas
f0rsakeN
Less
Ethan
something
Boostio
d4v41
ZmjjKK
mindfreak
s0m
jawgemo
Demon1
Sayf
Rb

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diswaco

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valid list