eg and paper rex

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bro i swear asides from demon1 and something any player on those teams is just as important if not as good as them yet they rarely get on a top 10 players itw list, why tf people cant recognize f0rsaken, d4v4i, jingg, boostio, ethan or jawgemo? imo they are all beasts so far from what i´ve seen in their careers.

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Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world

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False

I actually think he is underrated

In all of the top 20 lists I’ve seen, he is near the bottom and isn’t given as much credit as people like Ethan and Potter for EG’s success

People forget that Demon1 elevated EG from being a bottom team in Americas, to now a top team in the world

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if you flip every single sentence of yours everything you say is facts except the last one

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Its true though

Demon1 is near the bottom in all of the top 20 lists

People on vlr have been talking much more about Ethan and Potter being the reasons for EG’s success instead of Demon1

Everything I said was facts

Demon1 is nowhere near overrated

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its bc when eg went on that run, ethan had the most impact in every single round. stats might say boostio jawgemo or demon1 were the best players but almost all of their kills were set up from ethan who never misses util. like if u were to switch ethan with an average imitator with mid util, eg definitely does not go on the run.

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Bro…

Demon1 is a much more valuable player to EG than Ethan

Dont forget that EG were one of the worst teams in franchising before Demon1 joined and Ethan was on the team.

Dont forget that it was Demon1 playing out of his mind in Americas playoffs to carry EG to Tokyo

Ethan is good, but Demon1 is the true star player of EG

Just because Ethan was slightly better than Demon1 in tokyo doesn’t mean Ethan is better

Without Demon1, EG wouldn’t even be here

It is actually criminal how people are forgetting about how good Demon1 is

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Ethan had to play yoru before demon1 came instead of his usual supporting initiator role, so he couldn't provide as much impact.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Ok but still

It is UNDENIABLE that Demon1 is more valuable to the team than Ethan

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bro jus stop dawg demon1 imo is up there but putting him over ethan is crazy, the amount of impact ethan provides with his god tier util usage sets demon1 up for people like you to focus on

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I mean, it's a valid opinion to think Demon1 is better than Ethan, but it's definitely not undeniable lmao

Throughout the Americas season, both Demon1 and Ethan had identical average ratings at 1.08.
At Masters Tokyo, they again had identical ratings, at 1.09.

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TrialRunnr

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maybe we just seeing different lists than cus I always see demon1 in top 10 lists and I have seen like only 2 people in existence mention Ethan.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Tell me some people who have Demon1 in their top 10

Cuz genuinely, I haven’t seen one yet

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TrialRunnr

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bruh I dont fking know man, I dont keep track of all the lists I see, but I can guarantee you people have demon1 higher than Ethan is most lists.

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Hahahaha laughable

I can name many people that have demon1 criminally low in their list but rate ethan highly

You say that you’ve seen all of these lists where Demon1 is top 10 but you can’t tell me a single person who made them

You are just lying

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bruh what, why tf would I remember peoples list when i see hundreds of them everyday, and even if Ethan is higher in most people list its just fking right, Ethan is literally a better player

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TrialRunnr

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I really dont know what list you been seeing but me and nismo be seeing the same lists :)
https://twitter.com/nismo_val/status/1686091460490215430?s=46&t=VLRURKKizxaInmbaxul_iQ

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Asuna_Yuuki

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I’ve been seeing people like Bren, TMV and Sliggy’s lists

Bro Nismo didn’t even release a list, for all you know Demon1 could also be in the top 10

And once again bro, you are proving my point which is that people are rating Ethan highly without giving as much credit to Demon1

And if you and Nismo have been seeing the same lists, why can’t you provide me literally a single one of those lists

continue thread →

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from a tier 2 player and pug tourney guy TO master's finals is anything but overrated. He can underperform in champs and still be rightfully rated as a top jett. This is due to the meta changes & outright mechanical diff in franchised teams. Yay couldnt keep up with top jetts both mechanically or agent-wise. Many duelists couldnt keep up with demon1. But you're an optic fanguy who's mad because demon1 is beating yay as best jett NA. So you're biased anyway and you should not be taken seriously.

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TrialRunnr

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bro wrote a whole fking paragraph to reply to my one sentence, stop doing tricks on it.

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crashhacker1

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yeah you're definitely mad yay couldnt do well in Tier 2. But hating demon1 is not it, lil pup.

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TrialRunnr

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bruh idk why you are so pressed, idgaf abt what Yay as much as I love him as a player, I supported the core since they were playing with fking kaboose and mummay and thats why I have the optic flair.
all i said is Demon1 is becoming overrated af, like stop making up scenarios in your head just for the sake of argument, jeez someones had a bad day.

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crashhacker1

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demon1 > yay currently. its a fact you have to accept or the negativity will eat you up, lil kid.

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TrialRunnr

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i really dont fking care but if it makes you feel better oh boohoo for making fun of Yay bohoo

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You're just incredibly fucking stupid your dumb takes are getting people mad

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flair

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GhostNexus

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???? Something says hello and Demon1 had the 2nd best rating on EG after Ethan and like 9th best in Tokyo stop speaking out of your ass

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GhostNexus

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You're an actual stupid fuck

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GhostNexus

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Actual clown just shut the fuck up NRG fans are actually suffering from brain rot

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TrialRunnr

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BRO IS LOSING IT LIVE LMAOOOOOOOOO

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GhostNexus

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Your mom is losing it

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KyLZi

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this guy is on cocaine wtf. 260 messages today and I dont recognize his style could be an alt but we might have a new beast on our hands.

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Congo1

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A good Trialrunner take?! Am i dreaming???

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TrialRunnr

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all my takes are good, you fragile ego just cant take it when I speak the truth about EMEA

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d4v4i is sooooo underrated.
like its criminal how most people dont recognise how much value he brings to the team

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koromast

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i remember how i only watched his stats last year and thought he wasnt good enough for paper rex, then i actually put attention to what he does and let me say being a initiator for both f0rsaken(now something) and jinggg its harder than what people give credit for, and now he doesnt only have better stats fragging-wise but he also improved his game sense and util a lot.

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f0rsaken and jinggg definitely get picked most of the times. i agree with the others tho

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koromast

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i´ve hardly seen any of both get picked on all the lists that have been made, its even hard to see jingg getting on a duelist only list on a position above 7th.

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d4v41 is an insane flex
f0rsaken one of the best flex itw
jinggg best raze player itw
mindfreak is insane underrated controller

jawgemo pretty good ig
boostio cracked igl mechanically
ethan is a great flex
i dont remember who else lol

demon1 is great but sooooo overrated bro
something wasnt even at masters, the other 4 stepped up big time for him so they arent really underrated

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mindfreak is the best smoker itw when he is feeling it, i´ve seen him outclass top notch controllers on some matches, if he was as good on all matches he´ll surely be compared to s0m or mako rn. but because of his underperformances im pretty bipolar about him

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DELUSIONAL_G2MARY_FAN

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some matches he does outclass the best of the best i want to see it some more in champs he is such a good player
he deserves more recognition for sure

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mindfreak seems to be having some kind of confidence dip, i think he should have better form at LA

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koromast

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yeah, but as soon as he starts thinking negative he fucks up

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tons of people put jinggg and forsaken in top 10 lists

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Jingg yes. f0rsaken nowadays? No. Ppl actually put something on their top 10 list.

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demon1 was the second worst EG player in tokyo imo and yet I see a lot of people putting him as the only EG player in their top 10 list

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You're just stupid. Nobody cares about your opinion. There's what you think and facts. Demon1 was 2nd highest rated player in EG after Ethan and was 9th place in Tokyo iirc stop being so dense

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just say you didn't watch the games lil bro, jawgemo has so much impact and his util usage + entries were insane, boostio put up an amazing performance as an igl

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Check Tokyo stats. See who's 2nd on EG you braindead

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"check tokyo stats" 🤓🤓🤓
you're never getting out of bronze lil bro

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Says the iron player

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also i think its hard for ppl to reach top 10 bc 4 spots r for fnc players so its really who is top 6

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Dont take those lists seriously they put BotBot in that list based on one tournament while constantly ignoring consistent players who have performed internationally

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True asf even tho I have seen people rating most of the paper rex players but when it comes to eg they always have been under appreciated and trash talked. Even in this whole thread no one even mentioned com (one of the best sova itw as imp as ethan to the team ), as someone who watched eg for so long it's just that demon1 has suddenly become the face of eg (kinda like how tenz is for sen),but it wasn't all fairly tales just after demon started playing ,we still lost to 100t and got 13-0 by loud on pearl but we showed great potential in all those games except for pearl (demon on Kj was troll even tho he used to play kj on Sqn ) but after that as a team they all played with great synergy and perfection which resulted in the success of eg but yeah people mentions demon 1 more cause he is the star duelist and the face of eg at the moment . Still eg isn't that respected tbh , people meat riding edg ( who didn't even made top4, don't get me wrong they are still good) but I have seen list where people put edg or NRG above eg even after all this performance and hardwork ( forget demon1 , no respect to any of em) ...I hope it changes after the champs hopefully and all of em get the respect they deserves

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I have 3 eg players in my top 11

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Everything was right until you said jawgemo. Great player, but does not belong in any top 10

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He was the best Raze player in Tokyo

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koromast

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2nd* jingg was the best but being 2nd after jingg is still insane, his smokers were also pretty solid

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He's a troll man

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koromast

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nah, babysasuke baits, but this time he just driding jawgemo, im pretty sure he likes him pretty much, cant complain tho he is great

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Jawg is insane man but it's alg u have ur favourites

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Not saying he's not insane he's very solid I'd say top 20/maybe even 15 but calling him top 10 is kinda absurd

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Wouldn't underestimate Demon1 at Champions.

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i will always have high praises d4v4i, he is a world class player and provides insane support for jingg/something/forsaken

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Players based on how impactful they have been for their respective teams

Eg-
Ethan
Boostio
Demon1
Jawgemo
Com

Prx-
Forsaken
D4v4i
Jiinggg
Something(from regular season)
Mindfreak
Cgrs