bro i swear asides from demon1 and something any player on those teams is just as important if not as good as them yet they rarely get on a top 10 players itw list, why tf people cant recognize f0rsaken, d4v4i, jingg, boostio, ethan or jawgemo? imo they are all beasts so far from what i´ve seen in their careers.
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TriQo [#3]d4v4i is sooooo underrated.
like its criminal how most people dont recognise how much value he brings to the team
i remember how i only watched his stats last year and thought he wasnt good enough for paper rex, then i actually put attention to what he does and let me say being a initiator for both f0rsaken(now something) and jinggg its harder than what people give credit for, and now he doesnt only have better stats fragging-wise but he also improved his game sense and util a lot.
d4v41 is an insane flex
f0rsaken one of the best flex itw
jinggg best raze player itw
mindfreak is insane underrated controller
jawgemo pretty good ig
boostio cracked igl mechanically
ethan is a great flex
i dont remember who else lol
demon1 is great but sooooo overrated bro
something wasnt even at masters, the other 4 stepped up big time for him so they arent really underrated
thatpower [#5]f0rsaken and jinggg definitely get picked most of the times. i agree with the others tho
i´ve hardly seen any of both get picked on all the lists that have been made, its even hard to see jingg getting on a duelist only list on a position above 7th.
DELUSIONAL_G2MARY_FAN [#6]d4v41 is an insane flex
f0rsaken one of the best flex itw
jinggg best raze player itw
mindfreak is insane underrated controllerjawgemo pretty good ig
boostio cracked igl mechanically
ethan is a great flex
i dont remember who else loldemon1 is great but sooooo overrated bro
something wasnt even at masters, the other 4 stepped up big time for him so they arent really underrated
mindfreak is the best smoker itw when he is feeling it, i´ve seen him outclass top notch controllers on some matches, if he was as good on all matches he´ll surely be compared to s0m or mako rn. but because of his underperformances im pretty bipolar about him
koromast [#8]mindfreak is the best smoker itw when he is feeling it, i´ve seen him outclass top notch controllers on some matches, if he was as good on all matches he´ll surely be compared to s0m or mako rn. but because of his underperformances im pretty bipolar about him
some matches he does outclass the best of the best i want to see it some more in champs he is such a good player
he deserves more recognition for sure
TrialRunnr [#2]Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world
False
I actually think he is underrated
In all of the top 20 lists I’ve seen, he is near the bottom and isn’t given as much credit as people like Ethan and Potter for EG’s success
People forget that Demon1 elevated EG from being a bottom team in Americas, to now a top team in the world
Asuna_Yuuki [#10]False
I actually think he is underrated
In all of the top 20 lists I’ve seen, he is near the bottom and isn’t given as much credit as people like Ethan and Potter for EG’s success
People forget that Demon1 elevated EG from being a bottom team in Americas, to now a top team in the world
if you flip every single sentence of yours everything you say is facts except the last one
meadows [#12]tons of people put jinggg and forsaken in top 10 lists
Jingg yes. f0rsaken nowadays? No. Ppl actually put something on their top 10 list.
TrialRunnr [#11]if you flip every single sentence of yours everything you say is facts except the last one
Its true though
Demon1 is near the bottom in all of the top 20 lists
People on vlr have been talking much more about Ethan and Potter being the reasons for EG’s success instead of Demon1
Everything I said was facts
Demon1 is nowhere near overrated
TrialRunnr [#2]Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world
from a tier 2 player and pug tourney guy TO master's finals is anything but overrated. He can underperform in champs and still be rightfully rated as a top jett. This is due to the meta changes & outright mechanical diff in franchised teams. Yay couldnt keep up with top jetts both mechanically or agent-wise. Many duelists couldnt keep up with demon1. But you're an optic fanguy who's mad because demon1 is beating yay as best jett NA. So you're biased anyway and you should not be taken seriously.
Asuna_Yuuki [#15]Its true though
Demon1 is near the bottom in all of the top 20 lists
People on vlr have been talking much more about Ethan and Potter being the reasons for EG’s success instead of Demon1
Everything I said was facts
Demon1 is nowhere near overrated
its bc when eg went on that run, ethan had the most impact in every single round. stats might say boostio jawgemo or demon1 were the best players but almost all of their kills were set up from ethan who never misses util. like if u were to switch ethan with an average imitator with mid util, eg definitely does not go on the run.
crashhacker1 [#16]from a tier 2 player and pug tourney guy TO master's finals is anything but overrated. He can underperform in champs and still be rightfully rated as a top jett. This is due to the meta changes & outright mechanical diff in franchised teams. Yay couldnt keep up with top jetts both mechanically or agent-wise. Many duelists couldnt keep up with demon1. But you're an optic fanguy who's mad because demon1 is beating yay as best jett NA. So you're biased anyway and you should not be taken seriously.
bro wrote a whole fking paragraph to reply to my one sentence, stop doing tricks on it.
Asuna_Yuuki [#15]Its true though
Demon1 is near the bottom in all of the top 20 lists
People on vlr have been talking much more about Ethan and Potter being the reasons for EG’s success instead of Demon1
Everything I said was facts
Demon1 is nowhere near overrated
maybe we just seeing different lists than cus I always see demon1 in top 10 lists and I have seen like only 2 people in existence mention Ethan.
TrialRunnr [#20]maybe we just seeing different lists than cus I always see demon1 in top 10 lists and I have seen like only 2 people in existence mention Ethan.
Tell me some people who have Demon1 in their top 10
Cuz genuinely, I haven’t seen one yet
TrialRunnr [#19]bro wrote a whole fking paragraph to reply to my one sentence, stop doing tricks on it.
yeah you're definitely mad yay couldnt do well in Tier 2. But hating demon1 is not it, lil pup.
crashhacker1 [#22]yeah you're definitely mad yay couldnt do well in Tier 2. But hating demon1 is not it, lil pup.
bruh idk why you are so pressed, idgaf abt what Yay as much as I love him as a player, I supported the core since they were playing with fking kaboose and mummay and thats why I have the optic flair.
all i said is Demon1 is becoming overrated af, like stop making up scenarios in your head just for the sake of argument, jeez someones had a bad day.
Asuna_Yuuki [#21]Tell me some people who have Demon1 in their top 10
Cuz genuinely, I haven’t seen one yet
bruh I dont fking know man, I dont keep track of all the lists I see, but I can guarantee you people have demon1 higher than Ethan is most lists.
TrialRunnr [#24]bruh I dont fking know man, I dont keep track of all the lists I see, but I can guarantee you people have demon1 higher than Ethan is most lists.
Hahahaha laughable
I can name many people that have demon1 criminally low in their list but rate ethan highly
You say that you’ve seen all of these lists where Demon1 is top 10 but you can’t tell me a single person who made them
You are just lying
TrialRunnr [#23]bruh idk why you are so pressed, idgaf abt what Yay as much as I love him as a player, I supported the core since they were playing with fking kaboose and mummay and thats why I have the optic flair.
all i said is Demon1 is becoming overrated af, like stop making up scenarios in your head just for the sake of argument, jeez someones had a bad day.
demon1 > yay currently. its a fact you have to accept or the negativity will eat you up, lil kid.
Asuna_Yuuki [#25]Hahahaha laughable
I can name many people that have demon1 criminally low in their list but rate ethan highly
You say that you’ve seen all of these lists where Demon1 is top 10 but you can’t tell me a single person who made them
You are just lying
bruh what, why tf would I remember peoples list when i see hundreds of them everyday, and even if Ethan is higher in most people list its just fking right, Ethan is literally a better player
crashhacker1 [#26]demon1 > yay currently. its a fact you have to accept or the negativity will eat you up, lil kid.
i really dont fking care but if it makes you feel better oh boohoo for making fun of Yay bohoo
True asf even tho I have seen people rating most of the paper rex players but when it comes to eg they always have been under appreciated and trash talked. Even in this whole thread no one even mentioned com (one of the best sova itw as imp as ethan to the team ), as someone who watched eg for so long it's just that demon1 has suddenly become the face of eg (kinda like how tenz is for sen),but it wasn't all fairly tales just after demon started playing ,we still lost to 100t and got 13-0 by loud on pearl but we showed great potential in all those games except for pearl (demon on Kj was troll even tho he used to play kj on Sqn ) but after that as a team they all played with great synergy and perfection which resulted in the success of eg but yeah people mentions demon 1 more cause he is the star duelist and the face of eg at the moment . Still eg isn't that respected tbh , people meat riding edg ( who didn't even made top4, don't get me wrong they are still good) but I have seen list where people put edg or NRG above eg even after all this performance and hardwork ( forget demon1 , no respect to any of em) ...I hope it changes after the champs hopefully and all of em get the respect they deserves
Asuna_Yuuki [#25]Hahahaha laughable
I can name many people that have demon1 criminally low in their list but rate ethan highly
You say that you’ve seen all of these lists where Demon1 is top 10 but you can’t tell me a single person who made them
You are just lying
I really dont know what list you been seeing but me and nismo be seeing the same lists :)
https://twitter.com/nismo_val/status/1686091460490215430?s=46&t=VLRURKKizxaInmbaxul_iQ
TrialRunnr [#32]I really dont know what list you been seeing but me and nismo be seeing the same lists :)
https://twitter.com/nismo_val/status/1686091460490215430?s=46&t=VLRURKKizxaInmbaxul_iQ
I’ve been seeing people like Bren, TMV and Sliggy’s lists
Bro Nismo didn’t even release a list, for all you know Demon1 could also be in the top 10
And once again bro, you are proving my point which is that people are rating Ethan highly without giving as much credit to Demon1
And if you and Nismo have been seeing the same lists, why can’t you provide me literally a single one of those lists
moshimoshiman24 [#17]its bc when eg went on that run, ethan had the most impact in every single round. stats might say boostio jawgemo or demon1 were the best players but almost all of their kills were set up from ethan who never misses util. like if u were to switch ethan with an average imitator with mid util, eg definitely does not go on the run.
Bro…
Demon1 is a much more valuable player to EG than Ethan
Dont forget that EG were one of the worst teams in franchising before Demon1 joined and Ethan was on the team.
Dont forget that it was Demon1 playing out of his mind in Americas playoffs to carry EG to Tokyo
Ethan is good, but Demon1 is the true star player of EG
Just because Ethan was slightly better than Demon1 in tokyo doesn’t mean Ethan is better
Without Demon1, EG wouldn’t even be here
It is actually criminal how people are forgetting about how good Demon1 is
xelto1 [#30]True asf even tho I have seen people rating most of the paper rex players but when it comes to eg they always have been under appreciated and trash talked. Even in this whole thread no one even mentioned com (one of the best sova itw as imp as ethan to the team ), as someone who watched eg for so long it's just that demon1 has suddenly become the face of eg (kinda like how tenz is for sen),but it wasn't all fairly tales just after demon started playing ,we still lost to 100t and got 13-0 by loud on pearl but we showed great potential in all those games except for pearl (demon on Kj was troll even tho he used to play kj on Sqn ) but after that as a team they all played with great synergy and perfection which resulted in the success of eg but yeah people mentions demon 1 more cause he is the star duelist and the face of eg at the moment . Still eg isn't that respected tbh , people meat riding edg ( who didn't even made top4, don't get me wrong they are still good) but I have seen list where people put edg or NRG above eg even after all this performance and hardwork ( forget demon1 , no respect to any of em) ...I hope it changes after the champs hopefully and all of em get the respect they deserves
I have 3 eg players in my top 11
The_Cleg [#35]Everything was right until you said jawgemo. Great player, but does not belong in any top 10
He was the best Raze player in Tokyo
The_Cleg [#35]Everything was right until you said jawgemo. Great player, but does not belong in any top 10
Jawg is insane man but it's alg u have ur favourites
xelto1 [#38]Jawg is insane man but it's alg u have ur favourites
Not saying he's not insane he's very solid I'd say top 20/maybe even 15 but calling him top 10 is kinda absurd
Asuna_Yuuki [#34]Bro…
Demon1 is a much more valuable player to EG than Ethan
Dont forget that EG were one of the worst teams in franchising before Demon1 joined and Ethan was on the team.
Dont forget that it was Demon1 playing out of his mind in Americas playoffs to carry EG to Tokyo
Ethan is good, but Demon1 is the true star player of EG
Just because Ethan was slightly better than Demon1 in tokyo doesn’t mean Ethan is better
Without Demon1, EG wouldn’t even be here
It is actually criminal how people are forgetting about how good Demon1 is
Ethan had to play yoru before demon1 came instead of his usual supporting initiator role, so he couldn't provide as much impact.
unknown_trash [#40]Ethan had to play yoru before demon1 came instead of his usual supporting initiator role, so he couldn't provide as much impact.
Ok but still
It is UNDENIABLE that Demon1 is more valuable to the team than Ethan
TrialRunnr [#2]Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world
???? Something says hello and Demon1 had the 2nd best rating on EG after Ethan and like 9th best in Tokyo stop speaking out of your ass
TrialRunnr [#23]bruh idk why you are so pressed, idgaf abt what Yay as much as I love him as a player, I supported the core since they were playing with fking kaboose and mummay and thats why I have the optic flair.
all i said is Demon1 is becoming overrated af, like stop making up scenarios in your head just for the sake of argument, jeez someones had a bad day.
You're just incredibly fucking stupid your dumb takes are getting people mad
uwukitten [#13]demon1 was the second worst EG player in tokyo imo and yet I see a lot of people putting him as the only EG player in their top 10 list
You're just stupid. Nobody cares about your opinion. There's what you think and facts. Demon1 was 2nd highest rated player in EG after Ethan and was 9th place in Tokyo iirc stop being so dense
TrialRunnr [#2]Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world
You're an actual stupid fuck
Asuna_Yuuki [#41]Ok but still
It is UNDENIABLE that Demon1 is more valuable to the team than Ethan
bro jus stop dawg demon1 imo is up there but putting him over ethan is crazy, the amount of impact ethan provides with his god tier util usage sets demon1 up for people like you to focus on
TrialRunnr [#2]Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world
Actual clown just shut the fuck up NRG fans are actually suffering from brain rot
GhostNexus [#44]You're just stupid. Nobody cares about your opinion. There's what you think and facts. Demon1 was 2nd highest rated player in EG after Ethan and was 9th place in Tokyo iirc stop being so dense
just say you didn't watch the games lil bro, jawgemo has so much impact and his util usage + entries were insane, boostio put up an amazing performance as an igl
GhostNexus [#47]Actual clown just shut the fuck up NRG fans are actually suffering from brain rot
BRO IS LOSING IT LIVE LMAOOOOOOOOO
uwukitten [#48]just say you didn't watch the games lil bro, jawgemo has so much impact and his util usage + entries were insane, boostio put up an amazing performance as an igl
Check Tokyo stats. See who's 2nd on EG you braindead
Asuna_Yuuki [#41]Ok but still
It is UNDENIABLE that Demon1 is more valuable to the team than Ethan
I mean, it's a valid opinion to think Demon1 is better than Ethan, but it's definitely not undeniable lmao
Throughout the Americas season, both Demon1 and Ethan had identical average ratings at 1.08.
At Masters Tokyo, they again had identical ratings, at 1.09.
babysasuke [#37]He was the best Raze player in Tokyo
2nd* jingg was the best but being 2nd after jingg is still insane, his smokers were also pretty solid
TrialRunnr [#2]Demon1 is quickly becoming the most overrated player in the world
A good Trialrunner take?! Am i dreaming???
Congo1 [#55]A good Trialrunner take?! Am i dreaming???
all my takes are good, you fragile ego just cant take it when I speak the truth about EMEA
GhostNexus [#50]Check Tokyo stats. See who's 2nd on EG you braindead
"check tokyo stats" 🤓🤓🤓
you're never getting out of bronze lil bro
GhostNexus [#47]Actual clown just shut the fuck up NRG fans are actually suffering from brain rot
this guy is on cocaine wtf. 260 messages today and I dont recognize his style could be an alt but we might have a new beast on our hands.
koromast [#54]2nd* jingg was the best but being 2nd after jingg is still insane, his smokers were also pretty solid
He's a troll man
The_Cleg [#61]He's a troll man
nah, babysasuke baits, but this time he just driding jawgemo, im pretty sure he likes him pretty much, cant complain tho he is great
uwukitten [#59]"check tokyo stats" 🤓🤓🤓
you're never getting out of bronze lil bro
Says the iron player
Asuna_Yuuki [#33]I’ve been seeing people like Bren, TMV and Sliggy’s lists
Bro Nismo didn’t even release a list, for all you know Demon1 could also be in the top 10
And once again bro, you are proving my point which is that people are rating Ethan highly without giving as much credit to Demon1
And if you and Nismo have been seeing the same lists, why can’t you provide me literally a single one of those lists
well, look at platchat list now then which is a combine of alot of people in the space and has demon1 in top 10 :)))
koromast [#8]mindfreak is the best smoker itw when he is feeling it, i´ve seen him outclass top notch controllers on some matches, if he was as good on all matches he´ll surely be compared to s0m or mako rn. but because of his underperformances im pretty bipolar about him
mindfreak seems to be having some kind of confidence dip, i think he should have better form at LA
jwlsie [#65]mindfreak seems to be having some kind of confidence dip, i think he should have better form at LA
yeah, but as soon as he starts thinking negative he fucks up
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