What are T1, T2, T3 teams?

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I thought franchised teams are all Tier1 but was i mistaken here?

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T1 is T1 idk others

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Americas and Pacific VCT are Tier 1

Rest Tier 2 or worse

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LycheeBlade

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VCT -- tier 1
VCL -- tier 2
anything below that -- tier 3+

of course, since this is the first year of franchising and all that, T1 and T2 have a bit of a grey area where you wonder why a team is in T1 (i.e., DFM) and you also wonder why another team isn't in T1 (i.e. M80, MxM, Union, Apeks)

in a couple of years the tiers will become more defined

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Okay, so that random guy who dm'd me on twitch was definitely wrong. Guy said Vitality and Giants are tier 2 teams LUL.

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Pengu12

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Nah bro just doesn’t like the teams 💀

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These aren't even that bad compared to KOI and Karmine

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some people define tier 1 as only teams who can actually contest for tournament wins, but I think that's a really weird way to define tiers of teams. guessing that's what the twitch guy was talking about

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In open circuit yeh that’s the definition but ppl do call lcq teams t1 so idk

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if EMEA has a team that's more T2 than T1, it's KC/KOI unfortunately. VIT/GIA are underwhelming but are still T1

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Vitality and Giants are pretty solid, teams like DFM MIBR KOI KC im not so sure about

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wait thats me

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As I see it right now the line isn't very pronounced, there are plently of VCL teams rn that would beat a solid amount of franchised teams. Likes of M80, MxM, Bleed, Apeks etc can most likely beat the bottom of the league teams.

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where the guard😡

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babysasuke

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Getting ready to get owned by FaZe Clan on June 8th at 7:00PM EDT 😡

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bonkashi

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are 0-2 against MxM 🤗

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Liem

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but valyn said they beat 3-4 franchised teams in scrims

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bonkashi

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results speak, scrims don't

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franchised = T1
VCL = T2
knights monthly = T3

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im surprised no one has said this - there is no concrete definition for what a tier 1 team is compared to what a tier 2 team is. it is all subjective - nothing has been defined by Riot, or even any pro player

automatically categorizing franchising teams into tier1 makes no sense - they're tier 1 because they're franchised? tiers should be based on a combination of accolades/average skill/peak sill, meaning teams like DFM are tier 2-3, while MxM would be tier 1

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it's a big hodgepodge for now because riot rushed franchising. the big idea was that the franchise league WAS supposed to be the tier 1 league, but obviously as you said there's a huge grey area between some teams in VCL and some teams in VCT (i wouldn't be surprised if The Union would demolish MIBR as is, for example). i'd say give it time. hopefully in a year or so with the transfer windows and such the different tiers will become a bit more defined

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it's likely that's what will happen over time, I'm just addressing the fact that there isn't a hard, concrete definition of what tier 1 actually means. The Union, MxM, M80, TGRD would likely all beat MIBR, KRU, and potentially LEV, FURIA, 100T in their current forms

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T1 - C9
T2 - Rest of Americas
T3 - Pacific League
T4 - NA VCL
T5 - Pacific VCL's
T6 - Knights Monthly
T7 - FaZe Smeag All-Star Weekend
T8 - GC
T9 - EMEA League
T10 - EMEA VCL's

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FaZe Smeag All-Star Weekend did go hard