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Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so many people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC

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Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC

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Shut up i atleast dont change my nationality like you every 2 weeks srsly choose one country..

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its like his papa changes every week

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U crossed the line here buddy

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How???? this man is one day a Australian next day you see him he is a chinese like wtf

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Probably he got deoprted from his country multiple times Kappa

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Bruh meant to relply to hiyo but vlr f'ed ig

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Always that one unfunny annoying cringey kid who craves attention ( ･ั﹏･ั)

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Ye i don tunderstand why they give SEA 3 slots. If everyone had 3 it would be more interesting.

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?? last sea playoff from the Indonesian stream alone reached 20 k... (1/6 countries)

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Still less than 50k

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whattt lmao? good for India to reach 50kviewers. But combined sea reached more than 50 k.

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Which match did sea get even 50k veiwers i saw every match

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combined bro... Indonesian stream alone reached around 20 k. Not the mainstream...

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Indonesia lmao, india 1 language stream got max 31K

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Why are you all comparing each other guys you are all from SEA, go for an international roster and you will have more opportunities to reach major regions

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? we arent all from SEA, SA and SEA are different, everything from culture, customs, ethnicity, etc but i get ur point to stop comparing each other

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
It was 60k btw..

https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-conquerors-championship
and this is Vcc peak viewers only 50k+

South asia is bigger than SEA too, so getting 50k viewers is not a flex at all

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not me getting downvoted for telling the truth and didn't say anything bad about the Indian viewership

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If you care that much you deserve to get downfragged

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i was just trying to clear things up but okay...

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Based take:
India vs Indonesia viewership
1b pop vs 276m pop

India will have more viewership

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more viewers does not equal stronger region. yall have more than 1 billion people in your country. no shit the indian scene will get more views. HOWEVER, your teams are worst than those in SEA and KR, therefore, your region's team does not deserve more than 1 spot.

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I see were you are coming from but SA is a Huge upcoming gaming region. Riot muwt and probably will invest big into SA. Im sure they will get a slot for masters/champions in VCT 2022

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you might be right, but rn, the indian valorant scene doesnt expand much out of their own region. On the contrary, regions like na are hot discussions almost everywhere around the valorant world.

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Tf you mean expand out of its own region, do you get the meaning of a region ?

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do you hear people in NA or EMEA talk about the indian scene? thats what i thought. the only indian forums in vlr.gg are made by indians. no one else talks about the indian valorant scene. youre fucking braindead

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Yea exactly the mere 20k veiwers that korean vct got actually included people like me not from their country while our 50k was completely ours only

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maybe because your country is 25x bigger?

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ive never seen anyone other than indians talking about the vcc ur t3 region bro

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if we dont have any exposure due riot not giving enough chance to international scene how can you expect other to know regional team except for that region.

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I think the "12" in your username refers to the amount of iq you use to write these takes.
"the indian valorant scene doesnt expand much out of their own region"
Bro this "VCC" is the first ever official tournament organized by riot which is a qualifier for a qualifier for Championship, then how TF are we supposed to be in "Hot Discussions" when we were being irrelevant to the scene because of lack of any opportunity, We are totally aware that we aren't on the level of NA/EU/Kr and not even blaming Riot but 1 slot for a whole bigg a## upcoming region is just UNFAIR.

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Yea but more veiwers mean more money in scene first of all you cant talk about skill before apac lcq and if indian matches get so many veiwers that is a better scene than sea or korea i mean its not like korea is defeating sentinels

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You gotta start somewhere, always remember brazil got 2 slots at Iceland

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things will change in the future chill out its first time, you should be happy riot giving chance

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Yea i get what u mean finally the curse by forsaken is lifting and we are getting a chance in esports after years

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First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?

If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance

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The only actual good take

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overkill for this kind of thread man.

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what kind of infra are you talking about that india is lacking behind from kr and SEA players like crazyguy used to playin indian teams during cs days india already had dreamhacks and esl one for dota .

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that is not riot events....

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Based take. Literally what I've been saying forever was that Riot didn't add India early on and they couldn't bring them into vct normally. So it's gonna be very scuffed anyways. And a lot of people were very happy about this small inclusion because that's the best they can do honestly. Sadge I guess.

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Everyone is kinda aware of the points you mentioned but it's just both of the teams in VCC GF are equally matched and has been sparring each other back and forth for more than a year and SA is kinda big region in terms of Valo players, Audience etc so yeah, 1 slot seems pretty unfair.
P.S. it's just HOPIUM to get 2 slots by any chance just like people were spamming threads, tweets to re-arrange the Berlin brackets to make it "fair" for every region.

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We are watched more than all of you and one of our teams is in Berlin. Turkey is the country that deserves the slot the most, But I think India is the country that deserves a slot after us.

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Dont worry brother SMB Demons are going to switch from 80 to 0 ping , if TR doesnt get their own slot then i think no one will

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turkey doesnt need their own slot, its basically giving supermassive a free pass into every LAN tournament

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FF also performed well , even better than most of EU teams

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thanatos11

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they drew with fpx?

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yeah man FF VS Guild was very close and OXG VS TL was also quite close.

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I agree.

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Stop the comparison you idiot just appreciate what we get and move on slowly ,stop trying to bring us down .

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and india has 1.5 billion people and gets only this much viewers. its like yyou have a major game in europe and only 10 people watching it

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Veiwers is veiwers how does percentage matter if even 10% percent people buy a chocolate in our country that is still 100million chocolates sold who cares if dairy milk sells to 80percent of rest ,,the industry of 10mil is still a industry

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Just because India has more viewers (1.4b population so no duh they'll have more viewers) doesn't translate to better quality teams who deserve more just because they have more fans.

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Why ? I dont get it more fans more money more investment better scene and now more people out of 1.4 billion are gonna try this scene that has so much money and will be sure they are not ruining their careers by not becoming engineer and doctor more competiton and finnally more top tier teams

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because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi

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Then why is groups being seeded in such a way that ensures a brazillian or sea team after 15th September even tho eveyone says that vision strikers should have been with envy so they can go ahead in tournament and not some random team with envy???? Whilst vision strikers is fked with acend and supermassblaze even though they got seed#1

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because haven liberty are still miles ahead of india

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Bold of you to assume that they are fcked cos VS looking really good coming into Berlin.

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okay bro chill

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u r not good as him shut up pussy

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thanatos11

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id probably be the best player in south asia

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try it

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thanatos11

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its not hard to be a jett op 1 trick where nobody has any clue how to counter

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Mans saying indian valorant is bad yet I have not even heard of a single italian valorant pro

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the best player in your region isnt even american?

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lmao i like how you are saying it like its an equalizing statement. yes in a scene of 80% americans one of the top players happens to be canadian. Meanwhile italy is in a top region full of orgs, investment, and talent and there are no notable italian players. i have no problem with this but you are shitting on a region lacking opportunity with this huge superiority complex even though your country doesnt bring anything for EMEA.

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I mean if the forum is already infected with piece of brainded scums like you then just let that happen as well ;)

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lmao rossi was rank 9 in leaderboards this act in asia pac, lets see if u get out of iron first

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thanatos11

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I’m diamond 2 in EU meanwhile you’re gold on Indian servers?

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OmGAWD ur SO coOL u MuST BAng CHIcks EVERyNiGHT

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thanatos11

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You must not considering you’re hardstuck gold/plat in Indian servers making shit montages

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At least I'm doing what I like not rating like a braindead keyboard warrior online but you do you king

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You keep going back to your same argument that there's more viewers of Indian Valorant (which actually is not really true other regions get way more views). Regardless, idk how else to say it but I'll repeat it again. Just because more people watch Indian games doesn't mean the players are better and deserve some sort of greater recognition. Just be patient and Riot will slowly incorporate more and more regions.

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BBL was getting 200K viewers but they achieved nothing. That makes no sense. Also I saw some people saying Indian fanbase is bigger than Turkey and 45K for GF is nothing btw just saying. BBL vs FF had 110K viewers in closed qualifiers, not even main event lmao.

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I mean i respect turkish scene if it is promoted more players in turkey will feel safe to become a pro and not just study and get a degree thats pretty much what i want in my country that everyone stops thinking abt engineering OUR COUNTRY HAS MORE ENGINEERS THAN POPULATION OF SWITZERLAND AND STILL WE ARE BELOW 100 IN SCIENCE RESEARCH RANKING WHILE SWISS ARE NUMBER 1

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I just dont know what you are trying to say dude. Also downvoting me and upvoting yourself doesnt make you right

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thanatos11

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hes trying to say he wants his country to stop going to university and become engineers, doctors etc. and just become pro valo players instead

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Bruh lmfao i dont want everyone to become pro Valorant players but this world is more than just engineers is what i want to tell my country via Pro Valorant Scene Millions in our country every year are forced to Give Jee Mains World Most Toughest Exam and lot of us Fail Miserably

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SEA viewership is actually higher than India. SEA is not a country, there are multiple streams with different languages. The last SEA challengers had 60k peak viewership.

Source: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs

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still india no slot vs 2 slot at challengers and 3 slot at lcq vs 1 slot at lcq

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The matches are watched by 100 thousand people in Turkey. If 2 slots are to be given to India, 5 slots should be given to Turkey.

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I mean we never said turkey to get less slots we just want our nation to get 2slots when the match was so close

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your espr scene is not developed and 2 slots is too much na it already takes 3 slots

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I think he meant 2 slots for LCQ like China, not vct

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SkRossi Turkish pride

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Korea peaked 60k btw

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Riot gives slots based on the region size, not based on how many viewers a region can get, if that were the case, TR would have like 4 slots simply bcuz they had like 100K viewers in a seeding match mutliple times

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you also have to take into account the fact that India began to develop the valorant esports scene far later down the road then say, NA and KR, which had a good comp esports scene since the early days of valorant. And they can't just make room for slots for an esports scene that is still in development, India, while it should get a spot, cannot just integrate itself into a competition thats half way finished, they have to wait until next year to enter the VCT.

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45k viewers India = 50 viewers

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0 viewers uganda = 0 viewers

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VCT SEA peaked at 60k while VCC peaked at 52k. Also, SEA's average viewers is at 36k while VCC's is at 20k so I don't know what you're talking about.
Stats:
SEA: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
VCC: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-conquerors-championship

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just leave it dumb argument

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VCC is the first ever opportunity for india in valorant scene officially, so everyone just got excited with the response thats y kids r spamming here n there.

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Are ky slots k liye marre ho bhai! Riot ko dena hoga to dega, be patient and trust your team.

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-turkey-stage-3-challengers-2
VCT in Turkey almost peak 100k (also, there is famous streamers like Wtcn, Unlost streamed this matches too. So there is a lot of views)
Can we get extra slots lol.
Stop being petty, no one cares how much matches watched.

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bruh u get to go to masters or atleast get to play to qualify, we dont even have a way to qualify

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indian esports KEKW

they will be good at valorant mobile maybe

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yea we r good at pubgm, codm, free fire ig

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Indian mobile esports is a joke https://youtu.be/J1Oq3QtRUEw

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lmfao people still arguing about this?
Bruv be happy we got 1 slot in an lcq [ which is nothing] but rare considering forsaken shit that happened.

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You can’t just say that because you get more viewership than other sea regions you guys are the better region.

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Korea got 50k