Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so many people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC
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Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC
hiyo [#2]Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC
Shut up i atleast dont change my nationality like you every 2 weeks srsly choose one country..
mAko [#5]?? last sea playoff from the Indonesian stream alone reached 20 k... (1/6 countries)
Still less than 50k
edtheking12 [#6]more viewers does not equal stronger region. yall have more than 1 billion people in your country. no shit the indian scene will get more views. HOWEVER, your teams are worst than those in SEA and KR, therefore, your region's team does not deserve more than 1 spot.
I see were you are coming from but SA is a Huge upcoming gaming region. Riot muwt and probably will invest big into SA. Im sure they will get a slot for masters/champions in VCT 2022
edtheking12 [#6]more viewers does not equal stronger region. yall have more than 1 billion people in your country. no shit the indian scene will get more views. HOWEVER, your teams are worst than those in SEA and KR, therefore, your region's team does not deserve more than 1 spot.
Yea but more veiwers mean more money in scene first of all you cant talk about skill before apac lcq and if indian matches get so many veiwers that is a better scene than sea or korea i mean its not like korea is defeating sentinels
dolphincandy [#7]Still less than 50k
whattt lmao? good for India to reach 50kviewers. But combined sea reached more than 50 k.
mAko [#10]whattt lmao? good for India to reach 50kviewers. But combined sea reached more than 50 k.
Which match did sea get even 50k veiwers i saw every match
PrTsty [#8]I see were you are coming from but SA is a Huge upcoming gaming region. Riot muwt and probably will invest big into SA. Im sure they will get a slot for masters/champions in VCT 2022
you might be right, but rn, the indian valorant scene doesnt expand much out of their own region. On the contrary, regions like na are hot discussions almost everywhere around the valorant world.
mAko [#10]whattt lmao? good for India to reach 50kviewers. But combined sea reached more than 50 k.
not me getting downvoted for telling the truth and didn't say anything bad about the Indian viewership
thegoat [#11]things will change in the future chill out its first time, you should be happy riot giving chance
Yea i get what u mean finally the curse by forsaken is lifting and we are getting a chance in esports after years
dolphincandy [#3]Shut up i atleast dont change my nationality like you every 2 weeks srsly choose one country..
its like his papa changes every week
dolphincandy [#12]Which match did sea get even 50k veiwers i saw every match
combined bro... Indonesian stream alone reached around 20 k. Not the mainstream...
mAko [#14]not me getting downvoted for telling the truth and didn't say anything bad about the Indian viewership
If you care that much you deserve to get downfragged
valvenq [#19]If you care that much you deserve to get downfragged
i was just trying to clear things up but okay...
First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?
If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance
mAko [#20]i was just trying to clear things up but okay...
Based take:
India vs Indonesia viewership
1b pop vs 276m pop
India will have more viewership
hiyo [#2]Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC
U crossed the line here buddy
Sprouts [#21]First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance
The only actual good take
Paracosm [#23]U crossed the line here buddy
How???? this man is one day a Australian next day you see him he is a chinese like wtf
edtheking12 [#13]you might be right, but rn, the indian valorant scene doesnt expand much out of their own region. On the contrary, regions like na are hot discussions almost everywhere around the valorant world.
Tf you mean expand out of its own region, do you get the meaning of a region ?
Paracosm [#26]Tf you mean expand out of its own region, do you get the meaning of a region ?
do you hear people in NA or EMEA talk about the indian scene? thats what i thought. the only indian forums in vlr.gg are made by indians. no one else talks about the indian valorant scene. youre fucking braindead
dolphincandy [#25]How???? this man is one day a Australian next day you see him he is a chinese like wtf
Probably he got deoprted from his country multiple times Kappa
Sprouts [#21]First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance
overkill for this kind of thread man.
edtheking12 [#27]do you hear people in NA or EMEA talk about the indian scene? thats what i thought. the only indian forums in vlr.gg are made by indians. no one else talks about the indian valorant scene. youre fucking braindead
Yea exactly the mere 20k veiwers that korean vct got actually included people like me not from their country while our 50k was completely ours only
dolphincandy [#30]Yea exactly the mere 20k veiwers that korean vct got actually included people like me not from their country while our 50k was completely ours only
maybe because your country is 25x bigger?
Paracosm [#26]Tf you mean expand out of its own region, do you get the meaning of a region ?
ive never seen anyone other than indians talking about the vcc ur t3 region bro
Met_ceza [#33]We are watched more than all of you and one of our teams is in Berlin. Turkey is the country that deserves the slot the most, But I think India is the country that deserves a slot after us.
Dont worry brother SMB Demons are going to switch from 80 to 0 ping , if TR doesnt get their own slot then i think no one will
Mrityunjay [#34]Dont worry brother SMB Demons are going to switch from 80 to 0 ping , if TR doesnt get their own slot then i think no one will
turkey doesnt need their own slot, its basically giving supermassive a free pass into every LAN tournament
thanatos11 [#35]turkey doesnt need their own slot, its basically giving supermassive a free pass into every LAN tournament
FF also performed well , even better than most of EU teams
Sprouts [#21]First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance
what kind of infra are you talking about that india is lacking behind from kr and SEA players like crazyguy used to playin indian teams during cs days india already had dreamhacks and esl one for dota .
Sprouts [#21]First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance
Based take. Literally what I've been saying forever was that Riot didn't add India early on and they couldn't bring them into vct normally. So it's gonna be very scuffed anyways. And a lot of people were very happy about this small inclusion because that's the best they can do honestly. Sadge I guess.
EndOfWorld [#41]and india has 1.5 billion people and gets only this much viewers. its like yyou have a major game in europe and only 10 people watching it
Veiwers is veiwers how does percentage matter if even 10% percent people buy a chocolate in our country that is still 100million chocolates sold who cares if dairy milk sells to 80percent of rest ,,the industry of 10mil is still a industry
Vortexy [#43]Just because India has more viewers (1.4b population so no duh they'll have more viewers) doesn't translate to better quality teams who deserve more just because they have more fans.
Why ? I dont get it more fans more money more investment better scene and now more people out of 1.4 billion are gonna try this scene that has so much money and will be sure they are not ruining their careers by not becoming engineer and doctor more competiton and finnally more top tier teams
dolphincandy [#44]Why ? I dont get it more fans more money more investment better scene and now more people out of 1.4 billion are gonna try this scene that has so much money and will be sure they are not ruining their careers by not becoming engineer and doctor more competiton and finnally more top tier teams
because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi
thanatos11 [#45]because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi
Then why is groups being seeded in such a way that ensures a brazillian or sea team after 15th September even tho eveyone says that vision strikers should have been with envy so they can go ahead in tournament and not some random team with envy???? Whilst vision strikers is fked with acend and supermassblaze even though they got seed#1
thanatos11 [#45]because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi
okay bro chill
thanatos11 [#45]because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi
u r not good as him shut up pussy
Stratum7 [#46]BBL was getting 200K viewers but they achieved nothing. That makes no sense. Also I saw some people saying Indian fanbase is bigger than Turkey and 45K for GF is nothing btw just saying. BBL vs FF had 110K viewers in closed qualifiers, not even main event lmao.
I mean i respect turkish scene if it is promoted more players in turkey will feel safe to become a pro and not just study and get a degree thats pretty much what i want in my country that everyone stops thinking abt engineering OUR COUNTRY HAS MORE ENGINEERS THAN POPULATION OF SWITZERLAND AND STILL WE ARE BELOW 100 IN SCIENCE RESEARCH RANKING WHILE SWISS ARE NUMBER 1
dolphincandy [#47]Then why is groups being seeded in such a way that ensures a brazillian or sea team after 15th September even tho eveyone says that vision strikers should have been with envy so they can go ahead in tournament and not some random team with envy???? Whilst vision strikers is fked with acend and supermassblaze even though they got seed#1
because haven liberty are still miles ahead of india
dolphincandy [#50]I mean i respect turkish scene if it is promoted more players in turkey will feel safe to become a pro and not just study and get a degree thats pretty much what i want in my country that everyone stops thinking abt engineering OUR COUNTRY HAS MORE ENGINEERS THAN POPULATION OF SWITZERLAND AND STILL WE ARE BELOW 100 IN SCIENCE RESEARCH RANKING WHILE SWISS ARE NUMBER 1
I just dont know what you are trying to say dude. Also downvoting me and upvoting yourself doesnt make you right
Stratum7 [#53]I just dont know what you are trying to say dude. Also downvoting me and upvoting yourself doesnt make you right
hes trying to say he wants his country to stop going to university and become engineers, doctors etc. and just become pro valo players instead
xDRAKEN_x [#54]try it
its not hard to be a jett op 1 trick where nobody has any clue how to counter
mAko [#18]combined bro... Indonesian stream alone reached around 20 k. Not the mainstream...
Indonesia lmao, india 1 language stream got max 31K
thanatos11 [#32]ive never seen anyone other than indians talking about the vcc ur t3 region bro
if we dont have any exposure due riot not giving enough chance to international scene how can you expect other to know regional team except for that region.
thanatos11 [#55]hes trying to say he wants his country to stop going to university and become engineers, doctors etc. and just become pro valo players instead
Bruh lmfao i dont want everyone to become pro Valorant players but this world is more than just engineers is what i want to tell my country via Pro Valorant Scene Millions in our country every year are forced to Give Jee Mains World Most Toughest Exam and lot of us Fail Miserably
edtheking12 [#6]more viewers does not equal stronger region. yall have more than 1 billion people in your country. no shit the indian scene will get more views. HOWEVER, your teams are worst than those in SEA and KR, therefore, your region's team does not deserve more than 1 spot.
You gotta start somewhere, always remember brazil got 2 slots at Iceland
Met_ceza [#33]We are watched more than all of you and one of our teams is in Berlin. Turkey is the country that deserves the slot the most, But I think India is the country that deserves a slot after us.
I agree.
SEA viewership is actually higher than India. SEA is not a country, there are multiple streams with different languages. The last SEA challengers had 60k peak viewership.
Source: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
dolphincandy [#25]How???? this man is one day a Australian next day you see him he is a chinese like wtf
Bruh meant to relply to hiyo but vlr f'ed ig
hiyo [#2]Sea and Korea matches dont even get more than 15k veiwers and VCC Grandfinal got a total more than double of these numbers why so people still say the our esports scene is not as developed as these we deserve 2 slots Vlt deserves the seat especially when china where the game is not even launched there are 2 seats in APAC
Always that one unfunny annoying cringey kid who craves attention ( ･ั﹏･ั)
Pink_Maldito [#62]SEA viewership is actually higher than India. SEA is not a country, there are multiple streams with different languages. The last SEA challengers had 60k peak viewership.
Source: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
still india no slot vs 2 slot at challengers and 3 slot at lcq vs 1 slot at lcq
thanatos11 [#56]its not hard to be a jett op 1 trick where nobody has any clue how to counter
Mans saying indian valorant is bad yet I have not even heard of a single italian valorant pro
edtheking12 [#13]you might be right, but rn, the indian valorant scene doesnt expand much out of their own region. On the contrary, regions like na are hot discussions almost everywhere around the valorant world.
I think the "12" in your username refers to the amount of iq you use to write these takes.
"the indian valorant scene doesnt expand much out of their own region"
Bro this "VCC" is the first ever official tournament organized by riot which is a qualifier for a qualifier for Championship, then how TF are we supposed to be in "Hot Discussions" when we were being irrelevant to the scene because of lack of any opportunity, We are totally aware that we aren't on the level of NA/EU/Kr and not even blaming Riot but 1 slot for a whole bigg a## upcoming region is just UNFAIR.
cripsy [#68]The matches are watched by 100 thousand people in Turkey. If 2 slots are to be given to India, 5 slots should be given to Turkey.
I mean we never said turkey to get less slots we just want our nation to get 2slots when the match was so close
Sprouts [#21]First, viewership isn't everything.
Second India is still far behind in building the proper infrastructure that KR and SEA already have, due to competing in other Riot events.
Third, skill wise, India is probably the furthest behind the two.
Fourth, China, similar to KR, is already a major region for Riot and does not take as long to develop and SA.
Fifth, chill man, Riot are doing their best and not everything will be perfect the first year (shown by Berlin seeding). I remember all the people being grateful that SA even got a LCQ slot. Where are all of those people now?If it were up to me, I would have given SA a SEA or CN slot but sadly it isn't. At least be thankful that Riot gave SA a chance
Everyone is kinda aware of the points you mentioned but it's just both of the teams in VCC GF are equally matched and has been sparring each other back and forth for more than a year and SA is kinda big region in terms of Valo players, Audience etc so yeah, 1 slot seems pretty unfair.
P.S. it's just HOPIUM to get 2 slots by any chance just like people were spamming threads, tweets to re-arrange the Berlin brackets to make it "fair" for every region.
thanatos11 [#45]because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi
I mean if the forum is already infected with piece of brainded scums like you then just let that happen as well ;)
dolphincandy [#47]Then why is groups being seeded in such a way that ensures a brazillian or sea team after 15th September even tho eveyone says that vision strikers should have been with envy so they can go ahead in tournament and not some random team with envy???? Whilst vision strikers is fked with acend and supermassblaze even though they got seed#1
Bold of you to assume that they are fcked cos VS looking really good coming into Berlin.
prophet_m1mosa [#57]Indonesia lmao, india 1 language stream got max 31K
Why are you all comparing each other guys you are all from SEA, go for an international roster and you will have more opportunities to reach major regions
gaunem [#66]Mans saying indian valorant is bad yet I have not even heard of a single italian valorant pro
the best player in your region isnt even american?
dolphincandy [#69]I mean we never said turkey to get less slots we just want our nation to get 2slots when the match was so close
your espr scene is not developed and 2 slots is too much na it already takes 3 slots
thanatos11 [#75]the best player in your region isnt even american?
lmao i like how you are saying it like its an equalizing statement. yes in a scene of 80% americans one of the top players happens to be canadian. Meanwhile italy is in a top region full of orgs, investment, and talent and there are no notable italian players. i have no problem with this but you are shitting on a region lacking opportunity with this huge superiority complex even though your country doesnt bring anything for EMEA.
bigpeensheen [#78]Riot gives slots based on the region size, not based on how many viewers a region can get, if that were the case, TR would have like 4 slots simply bcuz they had like 100K viewers in a seeding match mutliple times
you also have to take into account the fact that India began to develop the valorant esports scene far later down the road then say, NA and KR, which had a good comp esports scene since the early days of valorant. And they can't just make room for slots for an esports scene that is still in development, India, while it should get a spot, cannot just integrate itself into a competition thats half way finished, they have to wait until next year to enter the VCT.
dolphincandy [#44]Why ? I dont get it more fans more money more investment better scene and now more people out of 1.4 billion are gonna try this scene that has so much money and will be sure they are not ruining their careers by not becoming engineer and doctor more competiton and finnally more top tier teams
You keep going back to your same argument that there's more viewers of Indian Valorant (which actually is not really true other regions get way more views). Regardless, idk how else to say it but I'll repeat it again. Just because more people watch Indian games doesn't mean the players are better and deserve some sort of greater recognition. Just be patient and Riot will slowly incorporate more and more regions.
Obeeey [#74]Why are you all comparing each other guys you are all from SEA, go for an international roster and you will have more opportunities to reach major regions
? we arent all from SEA, SA and SEA are different, everything from culture, customs, ethnicity, etc but i get ur point to stop comparing each other
thanatos11 [#45]because riot wants the events to be good? and not filled with shit players like skrossi
lmao rossi was rank 9 in leaderboards this act in asia pac, lets see if u get out of iron first
DaalLiya [#38]what kind of infra are you talking about that india is lacking behind from kr and SEA players like crazyguy used to playin indian teams during cs days india already had dreamhacks and esl one for dota .
that is not riot events....
dolphincandy [#12]Which match did sea get even 50k veiwers i saw every match
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
It was 60k btw..
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-conquerors-championship
and this is Vcc peak viewers only 50k+
South asia is bigger than SEA too, so getting 50k viewers is not a flex at all
Paracosm [#83]lmao rossi was rank 9 in leaderboards this act in asia pac, lets see if u get out of iron first
I’m diamond 2 in EU meanwhile you’re gold on Indian servers?
cripsy [#68]The matches are watched by 100 thousand people in Turkey. If 2 slots are to be given to India, 5 slots should be given to Turkey.
SkRossi Turkish pride
cripsy [#76]your espr scene is not developed and 2 slots is too much na it already takes 3 slots
I think he meant 2 slots for LCQ like China, not vct
thanatos11 [#87]I’m diamond 2 in EU meanwhile you’re gold on Indian servers?
OmGAWD ur SO coOL u MuST BAng CHIcks EVERyNiGHT
VCT SEA peaked at 60k while VCC peaked at 52k. Also, SEA's average viewers is at 36k while VCC's is at 20k so I don't know what you're talking about.
Stats:
SEA: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
VCC: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-conquerors-championship
bloodysky [#91]VCT SEA peaked at 60k while VCC peaked at 52k. Also, SEA's average viewers is at 36k while VCC's is at 20k so I don't know what you're talking about.
Stats:
SEA: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
VCC: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-conquerors-championship
just leave it dumb argument
Mrityunjay [#37]FF also performed well , even better than most of EU teams
yeah man FF VS Guild was very close and OXG VS TL was also quite close.
bloodysky [#91]VCT SEA peaked at 60k while VCC peaked at 52k. Also, SEA's average viewers is at 36k while VCC's is at 20k so I don't know what you're talking about.
Stats:
SEA: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-southeast-asia-stage-3-challengers-playoffs
VCC: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/valorant-conquerors-championship
VCC is the first ever opportunity for india in valorant scene officially, so everyone just got excited with the response thats y kids r spamming here n there.
https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-turkey-stage-3-challengers-2
VCT in Turkey almost peak 100k (also, there is famous streamers like Wtcn, Unlost streamed this matches too. So there is a lot of views)
Can we get extra slots lol.
Stop being petty, no one cares how much matches watched.
Dist [#96]https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-turkey-stage-3-challengers-2
VCT in Turkey almost peak 100k (also, there is famous streamers like Wtcn, Unlost streamed this matches too. So there is a lot of views)
Can we get extra slots lol.
Stop being petty, no one cares how much matches watched.
bruh u get to go to masters or atleast get to play to qualify, we dont even have a way to qualify
Paracosm [#90]OmGAWD ur SO coOL u MuST BAng CHIcks EVERyNiGHT
You must not considering you’re hardstuck gold/plat in Indian servers making shit montages
TinglyPiano [#99]indian esports KEKW
they will be good at valorant mobile maybe
yea we r good at pubgm, codm, free fire ig
thanatos11 [#98]You must not considering you’re hardstuck gold/plat in Indian servers making shit montages
At least I'm doing what I like not rating like a braindead keyboard warrior online but you do you king
TinglyPiano [#99]indian esports KEKW
they will be good at valorant mobile maybe
Indian mobile esports is a joke https://youtu.be/J1Oq3QtRUEw
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