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Shownu

Redgar hasn't been the same since Gambit became M3C in Stage 1 Challengers EMEA, just saying ...

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Same could be said about nAts

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no it couldnt nats was good his whole time before liquid,wtf is this narrative around nats being washed suddenly,he literally has 1.13 on cypher,hes only playing bad on viper atm,and the only bad game he has had is this one,the recency bias is crazy

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YOU WILL NOT SPEAK ILL OF MY KING.

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Dwighty

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But liquid fans say he's not the problem!

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He is not the problem

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Hi Mr Dwighty, would you mind if I ask, what are your favorite hobbies

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Nobody gonna say anything about soulcas?

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emirerays

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nAts lost his form and redgar been playin the same
I think the real problem is soulcas and nAts

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asdfgh

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playing bad in 1 match apparently means ur washed nowadays

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lmao you're so keen on defending him, he's washed kid, deal with it

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im not keen on defending him its impossible not to when the takes about him are so braindead,somehow because of this match there is suddenly some narrative that he is washed or has been playing bad when he has literally been playing good in every single match expect this one,literally go look at his stats in all his matches bro,its like everyone just says shit to sound smart or to have a controversial take without even knowing wtf they're talking about or because they saw someone else say it

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SAMPV6

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bro take a real look at his past 3 matches, he has been extremely underwhelming and no way near the level he used to play at.

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22-14 in a absolute wash against kc where jamppi was acing 2 times a map and 42-42 in 2-1 where he only went negative on viper is not "extremely underwhelming" wtf are you saying

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guy is braindead dont even debate this lol, he expects nats to drop 1.40 rating every match while playing cypher

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LouBag

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Nats was considered one of the best players in the world.

In his prime he would have made EVERYONES top 10 list and most peoples top 5.

Now he is a middle of the road t1 pro.

These are facts.

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yeah,hes also playing on his first international team who are also underperforming massively,but he isnt washed or finished

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I agree. He is not washed.

I would still put him in my top 5 EMEA sentinel ranking.

But I also won’t deny he used to be first. He is underperforming on a team that’s underperforming.

Liquid would look a lot better if Nats still had his magic, but for whatever reason… he hasn’t found his rhythm.

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yeah i agree

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emirerays

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not one bad match he has been performing poorly nearly all the matches im not a nAts hater i would love to see him perform but truth is the truth and i did not say he is washed i just said he is not in form read it correctly

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who igls for liquid

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Shownu

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The 🐐 IGL, Niko

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Azula

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Soulcas is hugely underperforming and nobody is saying anything

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People are more aware of how to counter nAts lurk then back in 2021. People talk about how they don't want him on KJ because he can't lurk, but nowadays, his lurk isn't getting anywhere near the same value as it used to. But that's just my opinion.

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Dokka

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TL couldn’t beat the best team in the world, doesn’t make him a fraud

The team has shown improvement already, it’s been rocky for sure but the trend is upward

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Ullyr

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bro there's some frauds in tier 1 but their fans can't admit they fallen off