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#1
Shownu

Redgar hasn't been the same since Gambit became M3C in Stage 1 Challengers EMEA, just saying ...

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PandaZ
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Same could be said about nAts

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Dwighty
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But liquid fans say he's not the problem!

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DELUSIONAL_SHAHZAM_FAN
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Nobody gonna say anything about soulcas?

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emirerays
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Dwighty [#3]

But liquid fans say he's not the problem!

He is not the problem

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emirerays
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nAts lost his form and redgar been playin the same
I think the real problem is soulcas and nAts

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asdfgh
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PandaZ [#2]

Same could be said about nAts

no it couldnt nats was good his whole time before liquid,wtf is this narrative around nats being washed suddenly,he literally has 1.13 on cypher,hes only playing bad on viper atm,and the only bad game he has had is this one,the recency bias is crazy

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emirerays [#6]

nAts lost his form and redgar been playin the same
I think the real problem is soulcas and nAts

playing bad in 1 match apparently means ur washed nowadays

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SAMPV6
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asdfgh [#8]

playing bad in 1 match apparently means ur washed nowadays

lmao you're so keen on defending him, he's washed kid, deal with it

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asdfgh
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SAMPV6 [#9]

lmao you're so keen on defending him, he's washed kid, deal with it

im not keen on defending him its impossible not to when the takes about him are so braindead,somehow because of this match there is suddenly some narrative that he is washed or has been playing bad when he has literally been playing good in every single match expect this one,literally go look at his stats in all his matches bro,its like everyone just says shit to sound smart or to have a controversial take without even knowing wtf they're talking about or because they saw someone else say it

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funny_prank
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who igls for liquid

#12
SAMPV6
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asdfgh [#10]

im not keen on defending him its impossible not to when the takes about him are so braindead,somehow because of this match there is suddenly some narrative that he is washed or has been playing bad when he has literally been playing good in every single match expect this one,literally go look at his stats in all his matches bro,its like everyone just says shit to sound smart or to have a controversial take without even knowing wtf they're talking about or because they saw someone else say it

bro take a real look at his past 3 matches, he has been extremely underwhelming and no way near the level he used to play at.

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Dolphin
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Dwighty [#3]

But liquid fans say he's not the problem!

Hi Mr Dwighty, would you mind if I ask, what are your favorite hobbies

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asdfgh
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SAMPV6 [#12]

bro take a real look at his past 3 matches, he has been extremely underwhelming and no way near the level he used to play at.

22-14 in a absolute wash against kc where jamppi was acing 2 times a map and 42-42 in 2-1 where he only went negative on viper is not "extremely underwhelming" wtf are you saying

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asdfgh [#14]

22-14 in a absolute wash against kc where jamppi was acing 2 times a map and 42-42 in 2-1 where he only went negative on viper is not "extremely underwhelming" wtf are you saying

guy is braindead dont even debate this lol, he expects nats to drop 1.40 rating every match while playing cypher

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LouBag
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asdfgh [#14]

22-14 in a absolute wash against kc where jamppi was acing 2 times a map and 42-42 in 2-1 where he only went negative on viper is not "extremely underwhelming" wtf are you saying

Nats was considered one of the best players in the world.

In his prime he would have made EVERYONES top 10 list and most peoples top 5.

Now he is a middle of the road t1 pro.

These are facts.

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LouBag [#16]

Nats was considered one of the best players in the world.

In his prime he would have made EVERYONES top 10 list and most peoples top 5.

Now he is a middle of the road t1 pro.

These are facts.

yeah,hes also playing on his first international team who are also underperforming massively,but he isnt washed or finished

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LouBag
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asdfgh [#17]

yeah,hes also playing on his first international team who are also underperforming massively,but he isnt washed or finished

I agree. He is not washed.

I would still put him in my top 5 EMEA sentinel ranking.

But I also won’t deny he used to be first. He is underperforming on a team that’s underperforming.

Liquid would look a lot better if Nats still had his magic, but for whatever reason… he hasn’t found his rhythm.

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LouBag [#18]

I agree. He is not washed.

I would still put him in my top 5 EMEA sentinel ranking.

But I also won’t deny he used to be first. He is underperforming on a team that’s underperforming.

Liquid would look a lot better if Nats still had his magic, but for whatever reason… he hasn’t found his rhythm.

yeah i agree

#20
ash_knuckles
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PandaZ [#2]

Same could be said about nAts

YOU WILL NOT SPEAK ILL OF MY KING.

#21
Azula
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Soulcas is hugely underperforming and nobody is saying anything

#22
Shownu
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funny_prank [#11]

who igls for liquid

The 🐐 IGL, Niko

#23
Tooker
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People are more aware of how to counter nAts lurk then back in 2021. People talk about how they don't want him on KJ because he can't lurk, but nowadays, his lurk isn't getting anywhere near the same value as it used to. But that's just my opinion.

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emirerays
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asdfgh [#8]

playing bad in 1 match apparently means ur washed nowadays

not one bad match he has been performing poorly nearly all the matches im not a nAts hater i would love to see him perform but truth is the truth and i did not say he is washed i just said he is not in form read it correctly

#25
Dokka
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TL couldn’t beat the best team in the world, doesn’t make him a fraud

The team has shown improvement already, it’s been rocky for sure but the trend is upward

#26
Ullyr
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bro there's some frauds in tier 1 but their fans can't admit they fallen off

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