Aspas is great BUT

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NG1nS

i feel like he's getting extremely overrated, he's a top player no doubt i just don't think i saw him being at yay's carry level ever.

i hope people don't turn into haters when he doesn't meet these insane expectations.

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Not overrated. People will just expect him to carry to the caliber he did last year. That’s extremely unlikely imo cus the two new players won’t be able to support him as much as Sacy and Pancada but imo he’s insane and the best duelist itw rn.

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he will be playing controller

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Who will play as controller is Tuyz, Aspas still as duelist

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imo the thing about him is his K/D usually isn't insane, but when you watch him play he is entrying and often winning fights that shouldn't be winnable because of how good his aim is

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His k/d is insane. He has 1.51 k/d with jett and that means he has more k/d than other top tier duelist like "cNed 1.44 , f0rsakeN 1.37 , TenZ 1.34 , yay 1.35 , derke 1.26 , cryo 1.42" with jett .

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all time kd means nothing look at his international kd againt the players u mentioned above

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Yes it does
It shows your consistency and if you are an actual top tier player

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I agree... aspas was used to only pick Reyna back in 2021 till Aug/Sept, and he became one of the best Jett and Raze itw in 3-4 months (what is kinda hard tbh)

And even after Jett nerfs he still keept consistent and impactful into LOUD games

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NG1nS

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of course it has value i just meant if u want to compare them using each player's international stats would be better, for all the players not just aspas

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All time K/D depends on the quality of the regionals as well. Loud dominated their Regionals so it inflates k/d compared to other regions which were more competitive so you should ideally only compare international performances since that is what matters in the end.

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the loud i know only aspas less go kill from saadhak, so if 2 of them are missing, loud is nothing

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thats the point, less and sacy used to kill everybody before aspas see the opponents. Yay didn't have this comfort.

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Calling world champion overrated....

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bait 0/8

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number1_MIBR_hater

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the fact yay was carrying speaks more about the state of optic than about aspas

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NG1nS

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that's also true

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eeeeeeeee

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Yay and aspas are 2 different types of players. Yay was extremely consistent, experienced and reliable on LAN. Whereas aspas is more of a young gun whose shown an insane amount of raw talent and mechanics but didn't perform well at Champions.

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Nisham

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he performed well at champs wtf.
Yea Less kinda overshadowed him but Aspas was Insane

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eeeeeeeee

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he was the worst loud player at champions bro... pancada, sacy, less, saadhak, aspas in that order https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022 wake up

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Aspas has that dawg in him though you cant see it in the stats

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kvanz

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facts, his role is very much get in and get dirty, he's put in really difficult situations and survives WAY more than he should, that's how good he is

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I mean, comparing him to yay in stats is kinda unfair. Aspas was a full time duelist, always making first contact and doing the entry. Yay was mostly on chamber, having safe first contacts through off-angles + instant teleport out after first shot. Aspas is obviously gonna die way more and have less fragging potential because of the difference in time they were both alive.

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eeeeeeeee

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duelists are expected to get the highest stats bro 💀💀💀the other loud players roles are harder (controller, sentinel)

the cope is real

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It depends man, when it comes to LOUD, Aspas does risky entrys because of his aim and because he can get value out of them even if he dies, Sacy and Saadhak talked about that because of some fracture games and such. He gets a lot of kills but he also dies a lot. Yay seems more consistent because he's got a similar level of aim (both are demons) but he used and agent that could easly get him out of situations in an instant, and even when Yay played Jett he didn't entry like aspas did. Comparing both using raw stats like that is just dumb and shallow.

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eeeeeeeee

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not even comparing just yay and aspas 💀 did you miss the 29 other players above him?

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common silver mentality

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Actually it seems that aspas don't have that much impact, cuz whole LOUD team last year was cracked af and everyone kind of frags equally

Cauanzin and TuyZ have the same playstyle of Sacy and pANcada, so I think that this year will be almost the same thing... The only difference it's that Sacy and Pancada have more experience years than the rookies

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Mocratow

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🤣🤣🤣
Braindead take.
Did you even watch the games?
Simple eye test tell you how much better Aspas is...

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RedditGGGB

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you say that because everyone else on LOUD was cracked, Aspas is insane

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NG1nS

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yeah that's probably what happened, LOUD didn't really need a carry player

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aspas good with raze? No

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Yay with Chamber meta buff = aspas

Yay without Chamber meta buff < aspas

I think the "overrated" here is Yay. He became what he is thanks to the agent's imbalance, and because of his insane skill with operator. He's surely on top 3 players, but in overall (agents and guns) aspas is better

Edit: This message was meant to reply to the thread in general, not anyone specifically. It was a missclick

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just correcting you:

Yay with Chamber meta buff ≥ aspas
Yay without Chamber meta buff < aspas

yay was cracked as fuck even with Jett... and now that Chamber isn't strong as a Godzilla, he'll be back to Jett and do awsome as he always did 😉

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Inf1Nity

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Ué, e eu falei que ele é um dos 3 melhores do mundo, só falei que o aspas é melhor que ele kkk onde exatamente vc me corrigiu?

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kbkdark

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Os sinais das 2 primeiras frases kkkkk

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SamBR

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"i feel like he's getting extremely overrated"

Champions MVP overrated kekw
Just high expectations for him

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Okoretro

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Where’s champions MVP Zeek now

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Bad player and worse mechanically than most duelists in brazil
It’s loud that makes him good, not him that makes loud good

Loud -aspas is still a good team
Aspas without loud is an average duelist

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kbkdark

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Hey guys, wake up!! Trembo's new copypasta is now on

LMAO

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trembolonaRage

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Me and every pro player in the Brazilian scene agrees with this

Aspas is totally replaceable

https://m.twitch.tv/clip/NastySoftPterodactylSaltBae-Ox1I2INmGQCCOFBa

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kbkdark

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LMFAO
Everyone is replaceble... If Sacy start to underperform cuz of bad phase and Cauanzin hit his prime, Sacy already was replaceble in that exact moment

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Gaabx saberia algo sobre ser substituível né, teve q entregar a função de duelista pro leozin

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iooeaa

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"Me and every pro player" goes and link 1 clip from a random tier 5 mf

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number1_MIBR_hater

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Eu sempre dou risada vendo esse vídeo do gabxx, aposentado com ego gigante que demorou pra abdicar do papel de duelista que ele claramente não aguentava falando essas paradas kkkkkkk

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eszett

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"sacy de iniciador é substituível? acho que não"
corta pro cauanzin amassando todo jogo e o sacy passando fome na sentinels KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
com ctz a opinião do gaabx é insana...

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Danny

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Almost everyone on sentinels is overrated

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EnzoLS12

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the highlights that mwzera does in lives are more insane that the ones aspas does, but Loud's duelist is so hyped that people exaggerate his plays. Aspas is a really good player, but if mwzera was Loud duelist, that would be no doubt with who is the best player in the world. No worries, 2023 has a name, welcome to the mwzera era.

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I would say that you dont consider him in the same level as Yay cause everyone in Loud was cracked so he didnt have to carry, not like Yay who had to carry Victor and Fns every game

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drisp

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You will know bro He is probably the best duelist right now
He is not overrated at all imo

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alitmanus

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bro thinks he already saw Aspas' peak

lmao
he's just a 19 yo
chill
last year he was literally learning how to play professional valorant
now he's experienced

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NG1nS

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u stopped fake flagging? good on u, i might actually read ur posts from now on

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alitmanus

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should I care?

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NG1nS

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oh hey there altimanus u stopped fake flagging? good on u, i might actually read ur posts from now on

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alitmanus

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read it just don't cry when I shit on shitmea

+I'm genuinely italian THE cradle of the west, THIRD wealthiest european economy, sweden who??

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lorenzopajaroFC

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You’ll read his posts? Not even I would wish such a punishment upon you and that’s telling something

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alitmanus

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me esquece maluco

retardado chato do caralho

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NG1nS

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are you happy now? u made him angry :(

#52

lorenzopajaroFC

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Ohhhh nooooo :((, I made the baby cry

I made him tilt a while back and now bro just rages every time he sees my name

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NG1nS

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i think he just rages regardless

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alitmanus

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Aspas isn't replaceable, not everyone can play well under pressure like Aspas... in grand final of the reykjavik masters, Aspas played ALL 3 MAPS well, and even when they were 2-0 in Breeze, he kept playing well

even before joining Loud he already showed he could play well under pressure, he even made a 2-10 comeback against Gamelanders https://youtu.be/FvyZxlpvQlM?t=1416

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wafters

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when the player u structure ur team around does well statistically :O

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dumbass

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NG1nS

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booooy was i wrong lmfaoooo, my man is fucking smurfing

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eszett

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oh boy it happens i said the same thing about derke and just burned my tongue