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Eyedd

I love csgo and I love valorant.

Sometimes I wish they’d change eco around in csgo and stop having 90% of plants turn into saves. Best thing valorant had over csgo is that retakes are a vital part of the game, leads to way more 1vX highlights and displays of insane skill.

Sometimes I wish there was less utility in valorant, it gets too crowded on execs and utility is typically a low skill ceiling in valorant (too easy too place exactly where it should go).

Sometimes I wish riot production wasn’t so gimmicky and also games should be first to 16 cuz 13 is too quick and puts too much importance on pistols and also overtime should be longer. Also fix your dang tournament styles. A 32 team single elim is just silly and ALSO a double elim to the final is dumb, make the quarter finals to finals single elim it makes every game insane and important. The amount of times a final is a rematch of a semi finals is so anticlimactic.

Thanks

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jimjam789

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W post but wrong on util. low skill floor but high skill ceiling.

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I agree that pistol rounds have too much importance in val. That’s why I like the stinger meta, it reduces the importance of pistol rounds

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The only thing they need to do is to reduce the price of M4.

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i think that mr1 ot is the worst thing riot could've ever done for their comp scene. i'd say it's fine for ranked, but cmon man, make it at least mr2 in pro play

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You mean utility is high skilled lmao

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Eyedd

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No I mean utility doesn’t require enough skill in valorant. Yes, there’s team play and stuff but just look at how brim can pop 3 smokes EXACTLY where he wants at the exact same time. You can fly your flash where you want. You can lay a Molly down and then hide and pop it off whenever you want.

Not saying there’s no skill, and it’s better for casual play, but it makes utility entirely too powerful in pro play for a fps (imo)

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no its lower the skill ceiling for bronze, silver, gold. ect , easy for entry but to master it the skill ceiling is way higher at pro play. Look at how many crazy combos you can pull off on top of new agents and maps. Idk how ppl can make the argument its no skill at pro level lol. Just cause you're playing in rank gold/plat and it easy doesn't mean utility combos are that easy to execute or to counter the other team at pro level.

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Eyedd

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Never said no skill. Said too powerful. You literally my point with “combos”.
My point is that there’s too much utility and it’s too powerful, it makes for a lot of chaotic execs and holds that could otherwise display people skill more frequently.

Pluses and minuses, I would just prefer less impactful utility and less of it.

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Ullyr

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? using utility combos and executing is part of the skill portion of valorant lol. Idk why you thinking that its all about shooting. Tactical fps skill comes from map knowledge, utiilty usage, aim , executing combos/strats as a team..

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You’re missing it bro. I’m not saying no utility only shooting… I admit, the best pros have more skill and prep with utility. Now you admit that valorant utility is OP and ruins some rounds

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LULQUID would get destroyed by IHC

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Eyedd

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Liquid look so awful 2023

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Mongolian CS taking over monkaW

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what u mean less utility ?? i love utility is what makes this game different from csgo and people dont like agents that only focus on firepower a perfect example is chamber brings little utility to the game nobody likes him.

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Eyedd

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That’s fair. Just my opinion. I think every single agent should get a fat utility nerf. Imo, it’d make the game better.

I still do love it though

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So is it bad that the game relies less on aim and more on utility usage? I'm asking because if all util is nerfed, it will become a competition of who has better aim. Especially with the inconsistent guns compared to csgo, it would make the game really unfair imo.

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Eyedd

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No I don’t think it’d make sense to go entirely 50/50 aim duels at all. I just think the ability to use utility to entirely neutralize a portion of the map or an entire enemy needs to be harder to use or something. And the amount of utility or frequency it can be used or something.
Those plays where someone gets their angle smoked, then kayo flashed, then breach nade, then breach flash, then raze blastpack closing space, then kayo flashed again before getting domed with no idea where they are… those are stupid plays imo. And I know that’s an exaggeration but like just something about the power and quantity of util in valorant isn’t fun or clever or skilled or anything.. it’s just like. Too much

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GAGAZ

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i like yay chamber

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TLDR

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unknown_trash

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csgo better, make valorant more like csgo

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so you love valorant but you would love it even more if there was less utility and games were first to 16 with longer overtimes?

sounds like you only love cs:go

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ItsMeDio

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13 rounds is enough.