TL overrated? | VLR.gg

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333triplethreat

SOULCAS
JAMPPI
REDGAR
NATS
DIMASTICK mb- SAYF (liquidpedia is wrong)
TL had Scream and Nivera who were a insane combo. Even with them, they literally did so bad at LANS. in 2022 champions, Scream did the best, followed by Jamppi then Nivera. 2022: EMEA Stage 2 Challengers. again scream at the top. 2022: Stage 1 Masters - Reykjavík GUESSS WHATTTT. WHO IS AT THE TOP ON TL AND DID THE BEST. SCREAMMMMMMMMM. Unless ur getting a top fragging nats or redgar every single series, TL will not go far.

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Dimasick isnt on liquid

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333triplethreat

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hm interesting, liquidpedia says he is but vlr says he is not

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thats not even the roster.
sayf is starting over dima

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alitmanus

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emea fans always overrate their shit teams

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yeah just like brazilians,also who overrates liquid,they are a really strong team on paper thats the most humble and reasonable opinion you can have,if you think otherwise you are either braindead or delusional

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alitmanus

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they're shit on paper and in game

stfu

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so you chose braindead,thank u for clarifying i will stop replying to u now since ur iq is way too low for a normal conversation, thank you for your time :)

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alitmanus

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I own you lil bro

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goofy_goober

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this ain't it dawg

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Yassine2k

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Stop the cap

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lorenzopajaroFC

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Sometimes I feel like the ex-gambit guys might be a bit overrated

Were they still together y’all would be putting gambit to win it all no diff despite their failures last year

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thefaz31

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Gambit was good, but when they lost all their structure bc of Russia stuff they fell off. They also had a lot more to deal with last year than just valorant

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FACTS. people stuck in 2021. All players on Liquid have something to prove right now.

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patuj

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nAts was M3C's best player(or 2nd after Sheydos) in 2022 as well and one of the best individuals in EMEA overall. Redgar has to prove himself though, because I thought M3C's calling wasn't that great overall.

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They're all great players, no reasonable person has doubts over their individual abilities.
It's about how they're going to perform in a team, in high stakes matches. That's where they've mostly faltered, so yeah, nAts included, they all have something to prove coming into 2023.

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patuj

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I understand your point, but I wouldn't say that they have faltered much. They placed 2nd in EMEA LCQ with a new player and placed 4th in EMEA Challengers 2 only behind FPX, Fnatic and Guild who all did well in Copenhagen. While guys like nAts and Sheydos have been some of the highest rated players in these EMEA events.

but yeah every player has to prove themselves on new teams

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n1cf

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dont care navi still better

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Liquid destroys Navi

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Wronghand

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Soulcas is fine
Redgar is miles ahead on Dimasick or link
Nats is a huge upgrade on Nivera
Jamppi and Sayf are both better than scream imo

They're a better team, NOW WITH A FUCKING REAL IGL.

Still, Navi better.

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stopped reading at jamppi and sayf are both better than scream imo

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GiancioZ

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ATM, they're imo as well

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masterX

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Jamppi and sayf better than screamm? What?

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Traderslife

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Scream is a big loss for liquid.

we shall see how they perform

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Luck_

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they are much better. jamppi will soon surpass scream, sayf has always been a demon, redgar is mechanically amazing and a great igl, nAts is the goat, always will be and soulcas is insane and idk why he always gets hate. in champs he did pretty good and red bull he went crazy
also emil > d00mb0s

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common na L take

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GravityMalware

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They didn't have igl ;(
Also soulcas 2023>soulcas 2022 with igl
Jampii duelist < scream duelist
Say of > jampii op
Redgar >> dimasick
Nats >> nivera

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Don't forget, Sayf has always been a W phoenix and a W Jett.
Yet to see how good his Raze / Neon can be

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I disagree. Liquid's firepower is miles ahead of what it used to be plus now we have an IGL.

nAts is an upgrade to Nivera in every single way
Redgar is a top 5 IGL no further explanation is needed here, he's also an upgrade over dimasick in every way
and Sayf will soon surpass ScreaM in the fragging department if he keeps up this wonderful form and Jamppi is also on the way there

say what you will but Liquid '23 >>> Liquid '22 imo

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Valgod

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When did they do bad at lans?

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thatpower

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when they get to playoffs

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G2ShahZaM

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pyosik was very disappointing

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I believe in Nats. Most rank 1 players of various regions have their KDs in the range of 1 to 1.3 max but Nats is the only rank 1 guy with a 1.49 KD. He is pretty much an anchor god. No site is safe when he is alive.

Jampii is a strong player too. He was mostly responsible for defeating Paper Rex last year.

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Keep crying . NA is going home on the first day any way
TL>>>>>NA

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GiancioZ

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Redgar - Great IGL
nAts - Probably the best sentinel itw
Jamppi - This guy is cracked on every agent
Soulcas - Nice flex
Sayf - GOD Jett

almost a perfect roster