Plat chat TIER LIST for VCT 2023
they didnt even consider liquid enough. they didnt think once that redgar is probably the best eu igl and nats the best player in the world. add to this sayf and jamppi as two solid flexible fraggers, they are easily comparable to loud
nats the best player in the world.
I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.
tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players
your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say
Crazy how you forgot that Yay was still El Diablo and a top 3 player before chamber was even released.
crazy how you forget nats was right there ahead of yay when that was happening. he was right there competing against people playing an overpowered jett, using the easiest gun in the game and having the biggest shot at scoring those high frags. nats still came out on top against those players. no disrespect to diablo though, that guy is undoubtedly the 2nd best itw.
nAts doesnt win games on his own
doesnt play chamber except for a game or 2 at most during vct (he played it on LCQ and dominated, idk why they put Lhronicle on chamber instead of nats), never gets first bloods or impact frags and his signature lurk style got buttfucked by the introduction of chamber and people getting used to how people like nats play. He's still mega clutch, but I dont think he can carry a game on smokes like Yay can carry a game on jett/chamber.
nah c9 without yay would be B. it would then have become a team with essentially players who achieved nothing in 2022, so they wouldnt have been anywehre near a
it's literally the REJECT core + a jett streamer and a player that had one good run in 2021, they'll be lucky not to get turned away at the airport on their way to brazil
Can't blame him for being gone from the ep tho, he's dealing with a lot. Wish him the best.
Suggest, Seoldam, and Xnfri give me a lot of hope but the other players are kinda terrible. I would rate them higher but this low placing isnt unjustified.
Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil
they have even more firepower than last champions. C9 didn't win anything...
I am looking the roster, but you have to consider the structure. Loud kept the IGL and bring more staff.
but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct
people seem to forget that Loud still has three of the best players in the world as their core, and the new additions are two cracked young players. They won't be as good as the older roster at first but the ceiling is very high.
The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo
Well... Less was considered s-tier player since Iceland (His first international LAN), due to his performance and significance to LOUD reach 2nd in Reykjavík
I don't care about the tier list, the first Lan final will be C9 vs Navi. DRX and Fnatic always throw once we believe in them.
they didnt know who molsi was. didnt know how good cender was. and almost didnt read bonecold's name, as if he didnt win champs last year and dominated t2 this year
Imo they are all good players except we don't know how good they are as a team
Giants on the same tier than LOUD, NRG, Liquid, PRX and Leviatan is, to say the least, optimistic.
Congrats to RRQ on winning the kick off tournament and being the best team in 2023
dng on bottom lmao
can’t wait for xnfri to prove these shitters wrong
Leviatan is being underrated af, they can actually be the best team in the world. Fntic still have Boaster, they are not S tier.
RRQ have a monster addition on Lmemore & Tehbotol and they put in below TS, i think it's becouse the "org"
People yapping shit here are extremely affected by recency bias.. think about each and every player in the team and how it'll affect the synergy and shit.. come on I think except for Liquid and GE rest all are on point.
It's fairly good considering that you don't actually know whats gonna happen with any of these teams. These teams are going to be practicing for months and the meta is going to change too probably. The list isn't going to reflect what actually happens since its so early which they recognize in the title of the podcast saying its too early.
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