Plat chat TIER LIST for VCT 2023
capital_d_colon [#3]you dont even know t1's 5th is
4 of the current player aim strength is on the level of PRX and DRX tho.
firefirefirefire [#9]fnatic S KKKKKKKKKK, also c9 so overated
C9 without Yay would be low A at best.
Pikmin [#13]Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though
it's literally the REJECT core + a jett streamer and a player that had one good run in 2021, they'll be lucky not to get turned away at the airport on their way to brazil
emraaa [#19]Vitality roster is insane, no? Why are they so low?
I dont think they even knew who molsi was tbh
thiagomds [#14]C9 better than loud? hahahaha
Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil
emraaa [#19]Vitality roster is insane, no? Why are they so low?
Imo they are all good players except we don't know how good they are as a team
Revlo [#21]Lnatic will never be the best in the world with boaster on the team.
Now that's some cope
capital_d_colon [#4]Liquid below koi is interesting....
they didnt even consider liquid enough. they didnt think once that redgar is probably the best eu igl and nats the best player in the world. add to this sayf and jamppi as two solid flexible fraggers, they are easily comparable to loud
Warlordwibz [#11]C9 without Yay would be low A at best.
nah c9 without yay would be B. it would then have become a team with essentially players who achieved nothing in 2022, so they wouldnt have been anywehre near a
charizard_123 [#24]I dont think they even knew who molsi was tbh
they didnt know who molsi was. didnt know how good cender was. and almost didnt read bonecold's name, as if he didnt win champs last year and dominated t2 this year
Brain_Needle482 [#29]Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil
they have even more firepower than last champions. C9 didn't win anything...
thiagomds [#14]C9 better than loud? hahahaha
people seem to forget that Loud still has three of the best players in the world as their core, and the new additions are two cracked young players. They won't be as good as the older roster at first but the ceiling is very high.
hiddenplace [#36]people seem to forget that Loud still has three of the best players in the world as their core, and the new additions are two cracked young players. They won't be as good as the older roster at first but the ceiling is very high.
The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo
Brain_Needle482 [#29]Yeah that make sense, they are not the same loud that won champ. How good they are will show in the tourney in brazil
To your surprise, they might be even better...
Brain_Needle482 [#39]The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo
They have until 2023 Champions, I'm good with the odds.
314sto [#20]Giants on the same tier than LOUD, NRG, Liquid, PRX and Leviatan is, to say the least, optimistic.
its delusional
thiagomds [#35]they have even more firepower than last champions. C9 didn't win anything...
why are u looking at the org instead of the roster?
brobeans [#43]why are u looking at the org instead of the roster?
I am looking the roster, but you have to consider the structure. Loud kept the IGL and bring more staff.
Pikmin [#13]Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though
no, its platchat being trashchat without sideshow
thiagomds [#44]I am looking the roster, but you have to consider the structure. Loud kept the IGL and bring more staff.
but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct
Warlordwibz [#5]4 of the current player aim strength is on the level of PRX and DRX tho.
cap, only sayaplayer and munchkin is
symbols07 [#32]they didnt even consider liquid enough. they didnt think once that redgar is probably the best eu igl and nats the best player in the world. add to this sayf and jamppi as two solid flexible fraggers, they are easily comparable to loud
nats the best player in the world.
I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.
tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players
brobeans [#55]but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct
They still have Xeppa and Vanity and I don't think they are top tier.
ritiknayak [#53]Bruh this GE roster deserves atleast B
they're still confused wth they gonna do with 10 man roster
brobeans [#55]but u said c9 hasn’t won anything when they have yay and their core has won NA vct
Insert International performance
Brain_Needle482 [#54]I mean it's a too early tier list, so it is to be expected.
it's wrong even for a early list
Sh1rpie [#57]nats the best player in the world.
I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.
tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players
Yay exists so no. Nats is really damn good tho.
M0K1 [#61]Insert International performance
winning NA vct is a better achievement than like 80+% of the franchised teams
no1haterbutloveyou2 [#56]cap, only sayaplayer and munchkin is
xeta and ban could easily compete lol
Sh1rpie [#57]nats the best player in the world.
I have been a GMB/M3C fan forever, but brother, nAts is not top 1 in the world. That's cope.
tbf though, Sayf, Poopii and nats + redgar + poopcas getting a low A tier is absurd, they're S tier players
your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say
Brain_Needle482 [#39]The young player still need to grow first before they are consider top tier (s tier) at least imo
Well... Less was considered s-tier player since Iceland (His first international LAN), due to his performance and significance to LOUD reach 2nd in Reykjavík
ColdWKey [#22]Congrats to RRQ on winning the kick off tournament and being the best team in 2023
winning kick-off tounament's last place and beingthe best team on losing every match in 2023
kbkdark [#69]winning kick-off tounament's last place and beingthe best team on losing every match in 2023
It’s the platchat curse lol everything they say the opposite happens
brobeans [#64]winning NA vct is a better achievement than like 80+% of the franchised teams
c9 core is shit at international lvl
symbols07 [#66]your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say
Crazy how you forgot that Yay was still El Diablo and a top 3 player before chamber was even released.
Pikmin [#13]Is dng really that bad? Looks like a solid roster to me though
Suggest, Seoldam, and Xnfri give me a lot of hope but the other players are kinda terrible. I would rate them higher but this low placing isnt unjustified.
Skuul13 [#73]c9 core is shit at international lvl
literal best performing team from NA at champs 2021
symbols07 [#66]your wording shows everything. and yes nats is still the best player in the world, yay is not even close. chamber nerfs and he'll just become 250 acs good duelist(probably the best at it,but...) while nats will bring the same stats on cypher viper astra omen chamber harbor anything you say
nAts doesnt win games on his own
doesnt play chamber except for a game or 2 at most during vct (he played it on LCQ and dominated, idk why they put Lhronicle on chamber instead of nats), never gets first bloods or impact frags and his signature lurk style got buttfucked by the introduction of chamber and people getting used to how people like nats play. He's still mega clutch, but I dont think he can carry a game on smokes like Yay can carry a game on jett/chamber.
Strafe7 [#75]Crazy how you forgot that Yay was still El Diablo and a top 3 player before chamber was even released.
crazy how you forget nats was right there ahead of yay when that was happening. he was right there competing against people playing an overpowered jett, using the easiest gun in the game and having the biggest shot at scoring those high frags. nats still came out on top against those players. no disrespect to diablo though, that guy is undoubtedly the 2nd best itw.
Shanvel [#80]People yapping shit here are extremely affected by recency bias.. think about each and every player in the team and how it'll affect the synergy and shit.. come on I think except for Liquid and GE rest all are on point.
It's fairly good considering that you don't actually know whats gonna happen with any of these teams. These teams are going to be practicing for months and the meta is going to change too probably. The list isn't going to reflect what actually happens since its so early which they recognize in the title of the podcast saying its too early.
Tyzehhxo [#85]EG in B tier is abit of a joke. I know its suuper early to even do these tier lists, but if the EG roster is what it's beleived I think they belong more inline with C-tier.
they are NA biased so its expected
Flyjin [#48]no, its platchat being trashchat without sideshow
Can't blame him for being gone from the ep tho, he's dealing with a lot. Wish him the best.
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