TSM ranking? Ranking problem in general

Ok I'm all for TSM winning but I can't help to notice that they somehow shot to #2 in NA rankings after 1 tournament, (that excludes alot of the team's they are ahead of such as Envy, 100t etc) this ranking system has got to have some major flaws

Yeah its so confusing

Yea but I guess it will be balanced in the playoffs? although i agree with you over the questionable ranking system and its flaws

when u see faze #4 u know that the ranking system is fked
dont get me wrong they are good but not #4

https://twitter.com/FNS/status/1421957629648199695?s=19 looks like they have already caught on

I think the biggest issue is there isn't a rating decay (as far as I know), where wins from over a year ago are still factored into their current rating. And you aren't gonna fall down the rating far if you get a win here, a loss there. So once you go on a streak of wins, you shoot up the standings. I am no programmer, I have no clue how you would program a fair decay system, I believe HLTV has one but I have no clue how it works.

Yeah, TSM had a huge ranking build up from their 2020 dominance so they were still ranked fairly high

yes, because tsm won a lot of games after losing stage 1, so their rank was artificially boosted, while teams who qualed from stage 1 can't win more games until playoffs, so their rating stays the same

however tsm is definitely in contention for top 5

I think you have to understand that the rating system is not a picture perfect system that you can take a snapshot of and be like "this is clearly #4 team in x region at this point in time"

It just keeps track of matches and distributes points accordingly over time (over a year at this point). That said, you can tell it's working at least moderately well when the top 11 teams in rankings are the actual 11 teams who have a chance at making LCQs and champions. These are definitely our best 11 teams right now in NA. However, you won't really know who's #2-11 until after playoffs, because all of these teams are still competing in this bracket until the playoffs are over. Until then, I don't think it makes sense to artificially adjust the rankings because of how people feel. Let the math do its work and see what it gives us after the playoffs.

Ultimately, I do think the math might benefit from some kind of decay system that factors in wins a lot less after a certain time period like 6 months. Or a roster change can have a ranking penalty. Or something else creative.

Gain less elo for beating teams ranked lower than you. Seems like a pretty simple fix. The fact that they keep getting so many points even when they beat lower ranked teams is kinda odd.

Everyone knows the ranking on this site is trash.

I'll put TSM top 3-4-5

Not top 2