Here's the deal TSM Fans

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This is the current standings for circuit points in NA

Sentinels: 500 points

Version1: 200 points

Envy: 85 points

FaZe Clan: 70 points

100 Thieves: 50 points

Cloud9 Blue: 50 points

Gen.G: 45 points

XSET: 30 points

NRG Esports: 30 points

Luminosity: 20 points

Andbox: 20 points

Immortals: 10 points

In order to make Champions, TSM would likely have to accept they're not winning Berlin the way they are now and aim for at least 30 points in challengers finals while praying LG loses either today or challengers finals quals early. This would allow them to sneak into Last Chance Quals, and there they'll have at least a chance for Champions. If they make it to Berlin tho, there's also a slim chance they can surpass V1 in points and just qual that way as well. This isn't just for TSM, this applies to other teams in similar situations as well.

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TEAM SOLO MID TO BERLIN

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you get 40 points for 7th-8th in challengers finals, so they just have to make it there and then would most likely be in lcq.

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Can you explain how the lcq works?

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we don't know the format, but there will be 10 teams, the top 8 in circuit points for NA that didnt already qualify for champions and two from OCE.

These are all the teams that currently have circuit points in NA: https://imgur.com/a/dOb4fI1

The green (SEN) means they are already qualified for champions, and the yellow-green (V1, NV, 100T, FaZe, XSET) means they are already qualified for the lcq at worst.

Note: NA could get a third team directly qualified to champions if someone from NA wins berlin.

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Also adding on, I'm surprised FaZe still has so many circuit points, ig placing second in masters 1 mattered a lot

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if they place bottom 4 in playoffs can they still make it to LCQ?

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yes they can

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how many NA teams participate for LCQ? what happens if 2 teams have same points?

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from sources I've read, 8 teams from NA and 2 teams from Oceania Tour participate in a NA Last Chance Qualifiers tournament (Which makes you wonder why SQ ever moved regions in the first place), and only one team from the tourney goes to Champions

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soniqs got tenfold more fans and got talked about more in the scene after move to US, people didnt really care about them in oceania. but if their aim was to make it to la worlds then staying in oce was a better move. moving to the us to sell merch i guess idk.

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8 seems fine. can any team get points if they reach closed but don't make it to playoffs?

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schlong

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I'm pretty sure you can only get points in playoffs

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The way this tourney is set up is so confusing

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yea kinda is, they gave teams too many points for masters 1 imo

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I think masters 1 finalists deserve a chance cuz they really were at peak at that time

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I mean the points from masters 1 is basically the same is the points for challenger playoffs from stage 2 and 3, its actually a little less. I would say that's fair.

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Ok.

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Imagine SEN wins Berlin and takes a spot from someone trying to qualify

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Dont you get like 50 point just by making challnager playoffs

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BuffX4

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40 but yeah they'd have to get extremely unlucky to make the playoffs and then miss lcq even if they get last.

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Zaynio

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Just believe in TSM taking Berlin home and everything is fine.....right?

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There are only 3 competitors : Rise, Pioneers and T1( for sure T1 wins today and LG will lose against C9B) for LCQ if TSM made it into Challengers Playoffs. So 6/8 spots of LCQ are kinda already confirmed. Now only 2 teams will get through this last event from those 4 new teams who got 0 circuit point and have chance to qualify for Challengers Playoffs. Please TSM make it into Challengers Playoffs first and then we'll see.

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sheeesh_gamer

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Nah i think we'll just win berlin and qual that way

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PurelyFrosted

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you wish lmfaoo

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This is so funny, they haven't even beaten any notable teams and the fans are talking about BERLIN LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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"dream till you die" - some random vlr pleb