Latest in Americas franchising rumours

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hiyo

Hi, I’m here to give vlr a quick list of rumoured teams for the Americas Franchising league next year. Nothing is confirmed yet so don’t get mad. :>

🇺🇸 🇨🇦(NA) Riot liked their proposal:
Cloud9
Evil Geniuses
100 Thieves
FaZe Clan

(NA) Riot disliked/rejected their proposal:
Sentinels
TSM

(NA) ????
OpTic Gaming
T1
Luminosity

🇧🇷 (BR) Riot liked their proposal:
MIBR
LOUD
FURIA
NIP

(BR) Riot disliked/rejected their proposal:
Vivo Keyd

Haven’t heard anything about LATAM just yet.

8/10 UPDATE AND EDIT:
🇺🇸 🇨🇦(NA) Riot liked their proposal:
Almost locks: Cloud9, Evil Geniuses, 100 Thieves, FaZe Clan, Sentinels (after signing Shroud and Zellsis their chances improved massively), T1, The Guard
Maybe: XSET, NRG, TSM, Version1

(NA) Riot rejected their proposal (public/rumoured):
Luminosity Gaming & Shopify Rebellion, Ghost, Complexity, DarkZero, Knights

(NA) ????
OpTic Gaming

🇧🇷 (BR) Riot liked their proposal:
Almost locks: LOUD, FURIA
Maybe: FLUXO, Gamelanders, MIBR

(BR) Riot disliked/rejected their proposal:
Vivo Keyd, NIP, TBK, Stars Horizon, Sharks Esports

🇺🇳 (LATAM) Riot liked their proposal:
Almost locks: KRU

Sources: private and public info (thanks to Thothgow for compiling info)

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DDenied

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thx for info

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Shigeo

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another Sentinels L

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reallyrainy

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why are so many teams proposing to riot, how are they going to pay for all the marriage ceremonies

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mumenrydr

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please cancel your internet subscription

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volaweeb

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LMAOOOOO

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yungbasel

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I appreciated this. Fuck these haters

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SeulgiVLR

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cant wait to see the sen v tsm rivalry continue in knights monthlys LMAOOO

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wizardbot

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Lmao no way in hell is faze getting accepted with the report they had

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hellohello139

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how could riot reject the best team in the world (TSM)?

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Howard

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0/8

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Sprouts

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Source?

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SeulgiVLR

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hiyo is a liquipedia editor he + other editors have scoop on stuff iirc

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Victorie

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Yes, it is well known that the liquipedia jannies have scoops even before the likes of Jacob Wolf, Richard Lewis etc. Imagine being so delussional, couldn’t be me.

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hiyo

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No, i can’t give my sOurce awaY, that would Not be very nice :(((

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reallyrainy

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source: the riot employee locked inside a cage in his basement

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bloodysky

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great clue

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leleuu

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kk i got it

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SeulgiVLR

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any idea if riot said anything to lg?

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hiyo

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nope, I would have to ask source if source had heard anything, but remember there may only be 4-6 NA franchised teams next year.

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Wouldn't matter, LG dropped their team and departed from Valorant

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dupreeeeeehalt

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give us non reserved spots in the league where teams qualify, or its an L

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lorenzopajaroFC

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^^^^

There should be regional qualifiers for each of the franchising spots, idc if that’s gonna make a busy year, it’s better than just killing most of the scene

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ConsistentCycles

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im surprised riot are so interested in faze given whats come out about their finances

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nutab1e

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What does riot even want from these orgs in order for them to be allowed in franchising? On the outside it seems as simple as saying okay you're in.

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SeulgiVLR

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financials, investment, stability, marketing

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GLN321

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And a good esports project, one of the main reasons why they’re not charging for franchising spots and instead giving orgs money is to have not only the rich orgs, but “good” orgs who care and will better the experience for viewers

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hiyo

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Management and commitment to the game
Ex. They didn’t like SEN/TSM management so no slot.
Ex. EG and C9 have shown commitment to the game and have money to pay for rosters so they got a slot

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nutab1e

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? so they won't let SEN/TSM in unless they fire management? Are these like personality issues or what that seems really weird.

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hiyo

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Yes, TSM’s management is notoriously bad(just look at their league team and Reginald), and they disliked Sentinels because they don’t have the drive to invest/win in the game

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I can understand TSM rejection, plenty of scandals there

I'm no Sentinels fan but that reasoning is so dull, maybe SEN management believes this exact team will come back to its 1-year-ago form, they are not supposed to change players every time, they can do whatever they feel like to do, maybe SEN indeed thinks this roster can be highly competitive

Riot has no right to deny Sentinels application just because of that, I mean... It makes no sense, It's almost like Riot judges Sentinels using some out of place factors

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hiyo

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We can never definitively tell why riot chose x team over y team, riot is pretty secretive with their selection. All I can say is that riot saw something they didn’t like in SEN. And I’m also not saying there’s no way SEN’s getting a spot next year, there’s still half a year left for them to decide.

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nutab1e

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ew I was kind of neutral on franchising but this is weird L rito

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SeulgiVLR

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no its because sen is player run/has little upper management and probably is in most of their games, atleast thats what imperialhal said about their apex team

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yungbasel

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Riot is putting up the money and paying orgs who they approve. It's almost like a job application, so surely, they have every right to reject SEN. Whether we like the reasoning or not.

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thiagomds

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Pay for rosters? Will be similar to NBA?

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zardinez

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Id be shocked if optic didn’t make it

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trembolonaRage

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end of line for VAL

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hiyo

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no more muzera 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Side note to Brazilian fans:
FURIA and MIBR will likely restructure their rosters, and possibly sign mw and heat.

VK might also choose to continue as smaller org with smaller footprint in tier 2-3 competitions as 3rd parties create tournaments next year.

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inlucid

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VK: spends 100k USD for mwzera
Rito: no

riot also didn't let keyd enter the league of legends franchising in brazil lol

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NG1nS

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why would riot refuse their offers is it a finance thing or what exactly is thr reason?

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inlucid

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i have no idea :/

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Please no Mibr

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Faze? After the report that theyre going broke, i think NRG is more franchise-able. NRG adding assistant coach + analyst + mental coach also shows they're investing more to valorant and interested in franchise

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TSM stopped investing in their league team also, and so many scandals in the management prolly why riot rejected their proposal in valorant.

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number1_MIBR_hater

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HAHAHAHAHAHA COMMON LIVO LEYD L

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Wronghand

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If there is more than 2 Brazilian teams in the America's VCT, then riot is throwing.

Korea and Brazil are similar. They got 1 team, a second team that can make an international lan and then NOTHING ELSE.

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HaSanity

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Leddes said faze had bad finances, common L

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juno_VLR

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TSM has been popular since the beginning of the game. Plus they have a main team, academy team, and female team, showing their commitment to growing the scene. I assume they were rejected since they weren’t good enough (only top 12 with limited spots)? Then again, EG hasn’t been consistent, and C9 struggled this event. Plus, how could you not bring in OpTic immediately.

Also sources

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SweetyMajdoor

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TSM stopped investing in their league team also, and so many scandals in the management prolly why riot rejected their proposal in valorant.

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Mkin11

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If rito rejected their proposal then next week we will see their disband

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KyLZi

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Interesting! No mention of Xset?

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Riot really hates Keyd lol

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divisionbell

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Nice post

Where's Noyn? :(

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hiyo

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In my basement along with potter fan ^_^

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Kepin

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What is franchising in this context? I'm confuse

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DELUSIONALCHRISTINECHIFAN

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yeah me too

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yungbasel

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TLDR: exclusive league / tournament circuit that is closed with presumably no open qualification. It's more or less invite only for orgs, limited number of slots per region (they're combining regions). More details being revealed by the week.

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DELUSIONALCHRISTINECHIFAN

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me too ^_^

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hazard25

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please make a similar post for APAC scene if possible

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RiveraRBB

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And for EMEA scene if possible, please!

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hiyo

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don't have the info, im not primary source

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hiyo

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i was right :>

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hiyo

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i was right :>