Latest in Americas franchising rumours

Hi, I’m here to give vlr a quick list of rumoured teams for the Americas Franchising league next year. Nothing is confirmed yet so don’t get mad. :>

🇺🇸 🇨🇦(NA) Riot liked their proposal:
Cloud9
Evil Geniuses
100 Thieves
FaZe Clan

(NA) Riot disliked/rejected their proposal:
Sentinels
TSM

(NA) ????
OpTic Gaming
T1
Luminosity

🇧🇷 (BR) Riot liked their proposal:
MIBR
LOUD
FURIA
NIP

(BR) Riot disliked/rejected their proposal:
Vivo Keyd

Haven’t heard anything about LATAM just yet.

8/10 UPDATE AND EDIT:
🇺🇸 🇨🇦(NA) Riot liked their proposal:
Almost locks: Cloud9, Evil Geniuses, 100 Thieves, FaZe Clan, Sentinels (after signing Shroud and Zellsis their chances improved massively), T1, The Guard
Maybe: XSET, NRG, TSM, Version1

(NA) Riot rejected their proposal (public/rumoured):
Luminosity Gaming & Shopify Rebellion, Ghost, Complexity, DarkZero, Knights

(NA) ????
OpTic Gaming

🇧🇷 (BR) Riot liked their proposal:
Almost locks: LOUD, FURIA
Maybe: FLUXO, Gamelanders, MIBR

(BR) Riot disliked/rejected their proposal:
Vivo Keyd, NIP, TBK, Stars Horizon, Sharks Esports

🇺🇳 (LATAM) Riot liked their proposal:
Almost locks: KRU

Sources: private and public info (thanks to Thothgow for compiling info)

thx for info

another Sentinels L

why are so many teams proposing to riot, how are they going to pay for all the marriage ceremonies

cant wait to see the sen v tsm rivalry continue in knights monthlys LMAOOO

Lmao no way in hell is faze getting accepted with the report they had

how could riot reject the best team in the world (TSM)?

Source?

Sprouts [#8]

Source?

hiyo is a liquipedia editor he + other editors have scoop on stuff iirc

Sprouts [#8]

Source?

No, i can’t give my sOurce awaY, that would Not be very nice :(((

reallyrainy [#4]

why are so many teams proposing to riot, how are they going to pay for all the marriage ceremonies

please cancel your internet subscription

any idea if riot said anything to lg?

SeulgiVLR [#12]

any idea if riot said anything to lg?

nope, I would have to ask source if source had heard anything, but remember there may only be 4-6 NA franchised teams next year.

give us non reserved spots in the league where teams qualify, or its an L

SeulgiVLR [#9]

hiyo is a liquipedia editor he + other editors have scoop on stuff iirc

Yes, it is well known that the liquipedia jannies have scoops even before the likes of Jacob Wolf, Richard Lewis etc. Imagine being so delussional, couldn’t be me.

hiyo [#10]

No, i can’t give my sOurce awaY, that would Not be very nice :(((

source: the riot employee locked inside a cage in his basement

im surprised riot are so interested in faze given whats come out about their finances

dupreeeeeehalt [#14]

give us non reserved spots in the league where teams qualify, or its an L

^^^^

There should be regional qualifiers for each of the franchising spots, idc if that’s gonna make a busy year, it’s better than just killing most of the scene

What does riot even want from these orgs in order for them to be allowed in franchising? On the outside it seems as simple as saying okay you're in.

nutab1e [#19]

What does riot even want from these orgs in order for them to be allowed in franchising? On the outside it seems as simple as saying okay you're in.

financials, investment, stability, marketing

nutab1e [#19]

What does riot even want from these orgs in order for them to be allowed in franchising? On the outside it seems as simple as saying okay you're in.

Management and commitment to the game
Ex. They didn’t like SEN/TSM management so no slot.
Ex. EG and C9 have shown commitment to the game and have money to pay for rosters so they got a slot

Id be shocked if optic didn’t make it

hiyo [#21]

Management and commitment to the game
Ex. They didn’t like SEN/TSM management so no slot.
Ex. EG and C9 have shown commitment to the game and have money to pay for rosters so they got a slot

? so they won't let SEN/TSM in unless they fire management? Are these like personality issues or what that seems really weird.

SeulgiVLR [#20]

financials, investment, stability, marketing

And a good esports project, one of the main reasons why they’re not charging for franchising spots and instead giving orgs money is to have not only the rich orgs, but “good” orgs who care and will better the experience for viewers

nutab1e [#23]

? so they won't let SEN/TSM in unless they fire management? Are these like personality issues or what that seems really weird.

Yes, TSM’s management is notoriously bad(just look at their league team and Reginald), and they disliked Sentinels because they don’t have the drive to invest/win in the game

hiyo [#25]

Yes, TSM’s management is notoriously bad(just look at their league team and Reginald), and they disliked Sentinels because they don’t have the drive to invest/win in the game

I can understand TSM rejection, plenty of scandals there

I'm no Sentinels fan but that reasoning is so dull, maybe SEN management believes this exact team will come back to its 1-year-ago form, they are not supposed to change players every time, they can do whatever they feel like to do, maybe SEN indeed thinks this roster can be highly competitive

Riot has no right to deny Sentinels application just because of that, I mean... It makes no sense, It's almost like Riot judges Sentinels using some out of place factors

end of line for VAL

Olofboost [#26]

I can understand TSM rejection, plenty of scandals there

I'm no Sentinels fan but that reasoning is so dull, maybe SEN management believes this exact team will come back to its 1-year-ago form, they are not supposed to change players every time, they can do whatever they feel like to do, maybe SEN indeed thinks this roster can be highly competitive

Riot has no right to deny Sentinels application just because of that, I mean... It makes no sense, It's almost like Riot judges Sentinels using some out of place factors

We can never definitively tell why riot chose x team over y team, riot is pretty secretive with their selection. All I can say is that riot saw something they didn’t like in SEN. And I’m also not saying there’s no way SEN’s getting a spot next year, there’s still half a year left for them to decide.

trembolonaRage [#27]

end of line for VAL

no more muzera 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Side note to Brazilian fans:
FURIA and MIBR will likely restructure their rosters, and possibly sign mw and heat.

VK might also choose to continue as smaller org with smaller footprint in tier 2-3 competitions as 3rd parties create tournaments next year.

Olofboost [#26]

I can understand TSM rejection, plenty of scandals there

I'm no Sentinels fan but that reasoning is so dull, maybe SEN management believes this exact team will come back to its 1-year-ago form, they are not supposed to change players every time, they can do whatever they feel like to do, maybe SEN indeed thinks this roster can be highly competitive

Riot has no right to deny Sentinels application just because of that, I mean... It makes no sense, It's almost like Riot judges Sentinels using some out of place factors

no its because sen is player run/has little upper management and probably is in most of their games, atleast thats what imperialhal said about their apex team

mumenrydr [#11]

please cancel your internet subscription

LMAOOOOO

VK: spends 100k USD for mwzera
Rito: no

riot also didn't let keyd enter the league of legends franchising in brazil lol

hiyo [#28]

We can never definitively tell why riot chose x team over y team, riot is pretty secretive with their selection. All I can say is that riot saw something they didn’t like in SEN. And I’m also not saying there’s no way SEN’s getting a spot next year, there’s still half a year left for them to decide.

ew I was kind of neutral on franchising but this is weird L rito

Please no Mibr

Faze? After the report that theyre going broke, i think NRG is more franchise-able. NRG adding assistant coach + analyst + mental coach also shows they're investing more to valorant and interested in franchise

TSM stopped investing in their league team also, and so many scandals in the management prolly why riot rejected their proposal in valorant.

HAHAHAHAHAHA COMMON LIVO LEYD L

hiyo [#21]

Management and commitment to the game
Ex. They didn’t like SEN/TSM management so no slot.
Ex. EG and C9 have shown commitment to the game and have money to pay for rosters so they got a slot

Pay for rosters? Will be similar to NBA?

If there is more than 2 Brazilian teams in the America's VCT, then riot is throwing.

Korea and Brazil are similar. They got 1 team, a second team that can make an international lan and then NOTHING ELSE.

inlucid [#32]

VK: spends 100k USD for mwzera
Rito: no

riot also didn't let keyd enter the league of legends franchising in brazil lol

why would riot refuse their offers is it a finance thing or what exactly is thr reason?

Leddes said faze had bad finances, common L

TSM has been popular since the beginning of the game. Plus they have a main team, academy team, and female team, showing their commitment to growing the scene. I assume they were rejected since they weren’t good enough (only top 12 with limited spots)? Then again, EG hasn’t been consistent, and C9 struggled this event. Plus, how could you not bring in OpTic immediately.

Also sources

juno_VLR [#42]

TSM has been popular since the beginning of the game. Plus they have a main team, academy team, and female team, showing their commitment to growing the scene. I assume they were rejected since they weren’t good enough (only top 12 with limited spots)? Then again, EG hasn’t been consistent, and C9 struggled this event. Plus, how could you not bring in OpTic immediately.

Also sources

TSM stopped investing in their league team also, and so many scandals in the management prolly why riot rejected their proposal in valorant.

SweetyMajdoor [#43]

TSM stopped investing in their league team also, and so many scandals in the management prolly why riot rejected their proposal in valorant.

If rito rejected their proposal then next week we will see their disband

Interesting! No mention of Xset?

NG1nS [#40]

why would riot refuse their offers is it a finance thing or what exactly is thr reason?

i have no idea :/

Riot really hates Keyd lol

Nice post

Where's Noyn? :(

divisionbell [#48]

Nice post

Where's Noyn? :(

In my basement along with potter fan ^_^

What is franchising in this context? I'm confuse

hellohello139 [#7]

how could riot reject the best team in the world (TSM)?

0/8

Kepin [#50]

What is franchising in this context? I'm confuse

yeah me too

me too ^_^

please make a similar post for APAC scene if possible

SeulgiVLR [#12]

any idea if riot said anything to lg?

Wouldn't matter, LG dropped their team and departed from Valorant

hazard25 [#54]

please make a similar post for APAC scene if possible

And for EMEA scene if possible, please!

RiveraRBB [#56]

And for EMEA scene if possible, please!

don't have the info, im not primary source

reallyrainy [#4]

why are so many teams proposing to riot, how are they going to pay for all the marriage ceremonies

I appreciated this. Fuck these haters

Olofboost [#26]

I can understand TSM rejection, plenty of scandals there

I'm no Sentinels fan but that reasoning is so dull, maybe SEN management believes this exact team will come back to its 1-year-ago form, they are not supposed to change players every time, they can do whatever they feel like to do, maybe SEN indeed thinks this roster can be highly competitive

Riot has no right to deny Sentinels application just because of that, I mean... It makes no sense, It's almost like Riot judges Sentinels using some out of place factors

Riot is putting up the money and paying orgs who they approve. It's almost like a job application, so surely, they have every right to reject SEN. Whether we like the reasoning or not.

Kepin [#50]

What is franchising in this context? I'm confuse

TLDR: exclusive league / tournament circuit that is closed with presumably no open qualification. It's more or less invite only for orgs, limited number of slots per region (they're combining regions). More details being revealed by the week.

hiyo [#10]

No, i can’t give my sOurce awaY, that would Not be very nice :(((

great clue

hiyo [#10]

No, i can’t give my sOurce awaY, that would Not be very nice :(((

kk i got it

i was right :>

i was right :>