Where is FPX in global rankings?

I just want more input. Where are these guys globally?

I'd say there is a 'Top 2' in Optic and Loud rn. Optic is just the toughest mental to break in the game, and the Loud roster is just as good. I'd say that Grand Finals goes for Optic 6/10 times, and Loud 4/10. They are top 2.

Is FPX there? Fnatic wasn't the team we saw, I'm not counting them. It's more a talk of G2 and Liquid. Both teams didn't perform as they were projected, for the most part. G2 beat a pre-NICE Zeta, and then floundered out after back-to-back 2-0's. Liquid, as always, surprised us early in the tournament and then settled down and lost 2-1 to Loud, and 2-0 to PRX.

FPX had a decent time against Liquid in EMEA, and then they beat G2 with 2 maps being a loss and an overtime.

It's undeniable that they are EMEA #1 and close to the top of the global rankings, but these performances are against a worse Liquid, but a better G2.

Personally, I have FPX in the second division of top tier teams, beside the big 3 of Asia : PRX, DRX, and Xeta.

0. Fnatic with braveaf and derke dropping 70 kills
   1.m3c
   2.fpx
   3.optic
   4.loud
   5.liquid
   6.zeta
   7.drx
   8.g2
   9.guild
   10.Ldn
   Idk

Chet said M3C and FPX were the best EMEA teams that they scrimmed, Saadhak said the best team they scrimmed was also M3C and they didn't practice against FPX, so probably M3C and FPX would give Optic a hard time

Unranked because they've been inactive for too long.

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#4]

Unranked because they've been inactive for too long.

Inactive? They won EMEA

kapteN [#5]

Inactive? They won EMEA

And? EMEA second place at full strength placed 6th. Winning EMEA tells me nothing.

andrewdamf [#2]

0. Fnatic with braveaf and derke dropping 70 kills
   1.m3c
   2.fpx
   3.optic
   4.loud
   5.liquid
   6.zeta
   7.drx
   8.g2
   9.guild
   10.Ldn
   Idk

c9 should be there instead of ldn or guild

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#6]

And? EMEA second place at full strength placed 6th. Winning EMEA tells me nothing.

name checks out

Iper [#3]

Chet said M3C and FPX were the best EMEA teams that they scrimmed, Saadhak said the best team they scrimmed was also M3C and they didn't practice against FPX, so probably M3C and FPX would give Optic a hard time

Yeah that's fair, I have M3C in the third tier of top teams. That tier is just for teams like Gaurd, Acend, and M3C, who at their peak can win a global tournament with rounds to spare, but if off their game they can lose at a regional level. M3C is great, but they are too inconsistent to be placed at Optic or Loud's level. Those 2 showed some of the most consistent play outside of groups, like stuff we haven't seen since Sentinals in Iceland.

M3C is great, and I love the team a lot. But because of how much I like them I'm very hypocritical of their inconsistencies. If the Iron that out, they can be a top team.

TBF, G2 played crazy good in EMEA playoffs, but Liquid was the best EMEA team in Iceland.

RickyIndian [#7]

c9 should be there instead of ldn or guild

C9 couldnt even win against guard 💀💀

Marcock99 [#8]

name checks out

For speaking facts that EMEA fanboys can't accept?

andrewdamf [#11]

C9 couldnt even win against guard 💀💀

They did actually. They won the first time and lost the 2nd time. But they are better than guard at LAN which u could tell from the guards performance at reykjavik.

Iper [#3]

Chet said M3C and FPX were the best EMEA teams that they scrimmed, Saadhak said the best team they scrimmed was also M3C and they didn't practice against FPX, so probably M3C and FPX would give Optic a hard time

They didnt scrim against fpx

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#12]

For speaking facts that EMEA fanboys can't accept?

exactly

trembolonaRage [#14]

They didnt scrim against fpx

Optic did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yx_bDxX2IQ&t=5588s

TheLastFlames [#13]

They did actually. They won the first time and lost the 2nd time. But they are better than guard at LAN which u could tell from the guards performance at reykjavik.

no shit they are better at Lan? If they werent they should be embarassed as fuck

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#6]

And? EMEA second place at full strength placed 6th. Winning EMEA tells me nothing.

did you watch any of the EMEA games?

Gomes255 [#18]

did you watch any of the EMEA games?

Yes. Nothing more impressive than what I saw in the Americas.

fpx prob top 3

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#19]

Yes. Nothing more impressive than what I saw in the Americas.

totally!

andrewdamf [#17]

no shit they are better at Lan? If they werent they should be embarassed as fuck

Didn't ur super team with the best players from brazil get 3-0d by Optic? embarassing

are you jo0king???? you think loud and optic are at the level of FPX??? Aint no way dude. I was gonna legit respond to this thread but the fact that you dont even realize that FPX is definitely top 3 global is beyond me

Wronghand [#10]

TBF, G2 played crazy good in EMEA playoffs, but Liquid was the best EMEA team in Iceland.

agreed honestly, its a shame FPX and FNC werent able to properly represent. FNC with their full lineup i feel would definitely take the tournament fairly dominantly

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#6]

And? EMEA second place at full strength placed 6th. Winning EMEA tells me nothing.

g2 got a lucky run, FNC, FPX, and M3C wouldve wiped masters honestly the level of play other than drx and optic were so low

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#12]

For speaking facts that EMEA fanboys can't accept?

he has to "name checks out" you because he knows he's wrong. EMEA is overrated no matter how you look at it.

TheLastFlames [#22]

Didn't ur super team with the best players from brazil get 3-0d by Optic? embarassing

and? Optic is a super team from NA so whats Ur point Lmfao, atleast it was a close match, imagine getting 13-5 on your best map against kids with no experience at all, embarassing fr

JustHunter [#23]

are you jo0king???? you think loud and optic are at the level of FPX??? Aint no way dude. I was gonna legit respond to this thread but the fact that you dont even realize that FPX is definitely top 3 global is beyond me

They suc

andrewdamf [#2]

0. Fnatic with braveaf and derke dropping 70 kills
   1.m3c
   2.fpx
   3.optic
   4.loud
   5.liquid
   6.zeta
   7.drx
   8.g2
   9.guild
   10.Ldn
   Idk

cant say m3c is better if they didn't even qualify for iceland, maybe at the end of 2021 but not now
Also I think optic is prob higher but i cant say for sure cuz we haven't seen head-to-head with a lot of these teams

andrewdamf [#17]

no shit they are better at Lan? If they werent they should be embarassed as fuck

Guard was insane when hey were on online you probably didn't even watch them.... also they had nerves since it was everyone's first lan except for saya

JustHunter [#23]

are you jo0king???? you think loud and optic are at the level of FPX??? Aint no way dude. I was gonna legit respond to this thread but the fact that you dont even realize that FPX is definitely top 3 global is beyond me

FPX lost to LDU and barely beat G2 on the last map in the grand final. Overrating your own region once again!!!

Iper [#3]

Chet said M3C and FPX were the best EMEA teams that they scrimmed, Saadhak said the best team they scrimmed was also M3C and they didn't practice against FPX, so probably M3C and FPX would give Optic a hard time

Scrims arent the same as the matches so in my opinion u cant really say m3c is the best in their region till they qualify in 2022.

JustHunter [#23]

are you jo0king???? you think loud and optic are at the level of FPX??? Aint no way dude. I was gonna legit respond to this thread but the fact that you dont even realize that FPX is definitely top 3 global is beyond me

I do have them top 3 global, I just wanted to see if others have them top 3. I just think they are just a smidge worse than Optic and Loud on a statistical sense, but in all reality a series with either the latter or former would be amazing and extremely close, similar to the Grand Finals we got from Masters 1. Once they prove Lan, I'll be much more certain on their position, but due to the poor show overall from G2 and Liquid. It's just hard to call a team that hasn't performed globally 'the best', but based on their results I feel they can be called top 3.

Not sure how Gold 2 managed to win against M3C but uh, M3C is solid against any team in the world. They are just all around good with almost no weak points. Maybe they just lacked some superstar to step up when its needed (they have always lacked that one player when it matters).

pretty low cuz theyre emea

Wronghand [#9]

Yeah that's fair, I have M3C in the third tier of top teams. That tier is just for teams like Gaurd, Acend, and M3C, who at their peak can win a global tournament with rounds to spare, but if off their game they can lose at a regional level. M3C is great, but they are too inconsistent to be placed at Optic or Loud's level. Those 2 showed some of the most consistent play outside of groups, like stuff we haven't seen since Sentinals in Iceland.

M3C is great, and I love the team a lot. But because of how much I like them I'm very hypocritical of their inconsistencies. If the Iron that out, they can be a top team.

My brother in Christ why are you calling the team the who was 1&2 in the first 2 lans of their career & missed Iceland by0.02 seconds

andrewdamf [#27]

and? Optic is a super team from NA so whats Ur point Lmfao, atleast it was a close match, imagine getting 13-5 on your best map against kids with no experience at all, embarassing fr

They aren't a super team though. It's the same roster it was for about a year now. Only difference is they added Yay. You brazilians be taking Ls and Ls and keep changing roster and are like "this time we will win", and this was by far the best team you created, the best players in each respective role, and yall still took a fat L by NAs team.

Iper [#3]

Chet said M3C and FPX were the best EMEA teams that they scrimmed, Saadhak said the best team they scrimmed was also M3C and they didn't practice against FPX, so probably M3C and FPX would give Optic a hard time

dude said inconsistent for M3C, when they already achieved so much and are actually the most consistent team. I don't know, if u live on mars, but their performance was highly affected by the war between ukrain and russia.

TheLastFlames [#37]

They aren't a super team though. It's the same roster it was for about a year now. Only difference is they added Yay. You brazilians be taking Ls and Ls and keep changing roster and are like "this time we will win", and this was by far the best team you created, the best players in each respective role, and yall still took a fat L by NAs team.

"arent a superteam" LMFAOOO ur on some dumb ass copium holy shit.
Marved top 5 controller,
Yay #1 chamber and top 10 minimum overall player in the world,
Fns easily top 3 igl in the world and judging by his performance on iceland hes just improving,
Victor one of the best aim in the world, best neon WW and raze in NA,
Crashies also like the others, top 5 minimum at his role. Literally everyone on optic is the best in NA in their respective roles and are easily top in the world.
Loud is a 3month old team, with a 17, 18, 22y dudes in their first lan in their life on valorant and your team still needed to go overtime against them to win a team that didnt even Care about losing the tournament because their real dream would be the Champions, Ur embarassing

andrewdamf [#2]

0. Fnatic with braveaf and derke dropping 70 kills
   1.m3c
   2.fpx
   3.optic
   4.loud
   5.liquid
   6.zeta
   7.drx
   8.g2
   9.guild
   10.Ldn
   Idk

wtf is an Ldn? not a single NA team makes this list outside of OpTic? you put TL above G2? You should consider being a comedian, you'd kill it.

Amok [#40]

wtf is an Ldn? not a single NA team makes this list outside of OpTic? you put TL above G2? You should consider being a comedian, you'd kill it.

flag and flair

andrewdamf [#2]

0. Fnatic with braveaf and derke dropping 70 kills
   1.m3c
   2.fpx
   3.optic
   4.loud
   5.liquid
   6.zeta
   7.drx
   8.g2
   9.guild
   10.Ldn
   Idk

I think Loud is higher than Optic
just because Optic beat them once doesn’t mean they are better :P Loud probably had a bad day

andrewdamf [#39]

"arent a superteam" LMFAOOO ur on some dumb ass copium holy shit.
Marved top 5 controller,
Yay #1 chamber and top 10 minimum overall player in the world,
Fns easily top 3 igl in the world and judging by his performance on iceland hes just improving,
Victor one of the best aim in the world, best neon WW and raze in NA,
Crashies also like the others, top 5 minimum at his role. Literally everyone on optic is the best in NA in their respective roles and are easily top in the world.
Loud is a 3month old team, with a 17, 18, 22y dudes in their first lan in their life on valorant and your team still needed to go overtime against them to win a team that didnt even Care about losing the tournament because their real dream would be the Champions, Ur embarassing

My boy Jimzo top 1 controller don't even cap

andrewdamf [#39]

"arent a superteam" LMFAOOO ur on some dumb ass copium holy shit.
Marved top 5 controller,
Yay #1 chamber and top 10 minimum overall player in the world,
Fns easily top 3 igl in the world and judging by his performance on iceland hes just improving,
Victor one of the best aim in the world, best neon WW and raze in NA,
Crashies also like the others, top 5 minimum at his role. Literally everyone on optic is the best in NA in their respective roles and are easily top in the world.
Loud is a 3month old team, with a 17, 18, 22y dudes in their first lan in their life on valorant and your team still needed to go overtime against them to win a team that didnt even Care about losing the tournament because their real dream would be the Champions, Ur embarassing

The only embarassing thing is u needed to type all of this to prove what to who? Nothing changes the fact Brazils best team got 3-0d by NA. So maybe instead of yall giving death threats to other teams, maybe calm down and just hold this L yall got.

andrewdamf [#17]

no shit they are better at Lan? If they werent they should be embarassed as fuck

thats his point?

top1-2 with gambot

TheLastFlames [#44]

The only embarassing thing is u needed to type all of this to prove what to who? Nothing changes the fact Brazils best team got 3-0d by NA. So maybe instead of yall giving death threats to other teams, maybe calm down and just hold this L yall got.

i literally proved all your argument wrong so you instead of atleast making up some shit you just say "NOThing ChAnGes ThAT tHEY goT 3-0D" dumbfuck lmfao, it was to prove to someone delusional and dumb like you, optic is best NA team and all maps were close. And just because you said "death threats" just explains totally How retarded you are

kristof [#42]

I think Loud is higher than Optic
just because Optic beat them once doesn’t mean they are better :P Loud probably had a bad day

???

andrewdamf [#47]

i literally proved all your argument wrong so you instead of atleast making up some shit you just say "NOThing ChAnGes ThAT tHEY goT 3-0D" dumbfuck lmfao, it was to prove to someone delusional and dumb like you, optic is best NA team and all maps were close. And just because you said "death threats" just explains totally How retarded you are

I don't feel like explaining myself. Just look at how mad you sound in that message. I could care less who the better team is. This shit is just funny how mad a braziliean fan gets over their team taking a fat L. Drop the ego and know ur place lol

TheLastFlames [#49]

I don't feel like explaining myself. Just look at how mad you sound in that message. I could care less who the better team is. This shit is just funny how mad a braziliean fan gets over their team taking a fat L. Drop the ego and know ur place lol

"i could care less who the better team is" keeps making texts saying nonsense shit about optic being super better than loud and how brazil is trash when it was OT multiple times in that game and saying i send death threats to people lmfao, im not mad, ur just retarded af bro

To be honest, Im sure they're very good but I don't want to put a team in my top 3 if they've never attended an international tournament. We can hypothesize all we want, but at the end of the day there is uncertainty associated to how they would perform on lan with the pressure of a big event on their shoulders. Very unfortunate circumstances that they weren't able to attend this time.

With that being said, M3C is definitely in my top 3 because they are proven and have strong scrimbux

delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#6]

And? EMEA second place at full strength placed 6th. Winning EMEA tells me nothing.

EMEA had liquid who were not supposed to be there and fnatic with 2 standins. Imagine if optic had to play without yay and crashies?

pewpew [#34]

Not sure how Gold 2 managed to win against M3C but uh, M3C is solid against any team in the world. They are just all around good with almost no weak points. Maybe they just lacked some superstar to step up when its needed (they have always lacked that one player when it matters).

Gold 2 are the luckiest team in the west They got a M3C who played 6 games in 8 days 3 on different patch also the FNC game.

Also zeta In Iceland

qwe123 [#31]

FPX lost to LDU and barely beat G2 on the last map in the grand final. Overrating your own region once again!!!

no way fpx win emea dominantly and youre still hung up on them losing to LDN weeks earlier while playing with a sub

#1

Wronghand [#9]

Yeah that's fair, I have M3C in the third tier of top teams. That tier is just for teams like Gaurd, Acend, and M3C, who at their peak can win a global tournament with rounds to spare, but if off their game they can lose at a regional level. M3C is great, but they are too inconsistent to be placed at Optic or Loud's level. Those 2 showed some of the most consistent play outside of groups, like stuff we haven't seen since Sentinals in Iceland.

M3C is great, and I love the team a lot. But because of how much I like them I'm very hypocritical of their inconsistencies. If the Iron that out, they can be a top team.

Team which gigastomps Optic roster 3-0 in Berlin Masters finals and places 2nd in the biggest Valorant tourney of the world in inconsistent ☠️☠️. They missed qualifying by such a small margin too

If Fpx participated they would have definitely won. Btw Riot banned Russian teams for what is happening with Ukraine. But riot didn’t ban Israel for doing the same thing to Palestine. I see double standards.

qwe123 [#31]

FPX lost to LDU and barely beat G2 on the last map in the grand final. Overrating your own region once again!!!

Fpx was literally playing against LDNU with a sub lol. Also kinda hilarious a KR fan is talking about overrating, whats DRX upto after disappointing in an Intl AGAIN?

andrewdamf [#50]

"i could care less who the better team is" keeps making texts saying nonsense shit about optic being super better than loud and how brazil is trash when it was OT multiple times in that game and saying i send death threats to people lmfao, im not mad, ur just retarded af bro

I don't really care, but when someone is as stupid as you, I gotta humble them. Talking shit about C9 being a LOUD fan. So yknow had to humble u by saying Optic 3-0d ur dogshit brazilean super team. "im not mad", yet u proceed to curse so much its sad and u just sound so mad the way u type. Must suck being a hardcore fan when ur team is ass. Any NA team violates ur region. EZ dubs. Stay mad shitter

andrewdamf [#41]

flag and flair

LDN over any other NA team is a bit too much bait LMAO

FPX=M3C>Optic
ardiis about optic: https://youtu.be/oEOUJZV4Yq8?t=2216 (ardiis predicted that optic will win this masters btw https://youtu.be/oEOUJZV4Yq8?t=2334)
Chet about FPX and GMB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yx_bDxX2IQ&t=5588s

andrewdamf [#39]

"arent a superteam" LMFAOOO ur on some dumb ass copium holy shit.
Marved top 5 controller,
Yay #1 chamber and top 10 minimum overall player in the world,
Fns easily top 3 igl in the world and judging by his performance on iceland hes just improving,
Victor one of the best aim in the world, best neon WW and raze in NA,
Crashies also like the others, top 5 minimum at his role. Literally everyone on optic is the best in NA in their respective roles and are easily top in the world.
Loud is a 3month old team, with a 17, 18, 22y dudes in their first lan in their life on valorant and your team still needed to go overtime against them to win a team that didnt even Care about losing the tournament because their real dream would be the Champions, Ur embarassing

and that’s how you get a brazilian to spew compliments about NA

kocunar [#55]

#1

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youngdagger [#51]

To be honest, Im sure they're very good but I don't want to put a team in my top 3 if they've never attended an international tournament. We can hypothesize all we want, but at the end of the day there is uncertainty associated to how they would perform on lan with the pressure of a big event on their shoulders. Very unfortunate circumstances that they weren't able to attend this time.

With that being said, M3C is definitely in my top 3 because they are proven and have strong scrimbux

i mean EMEA stage is already like international tournament, teams from eu, tr and cis regions are fighting each other

wizardbot [#58]

Fpx was literally playing against LDNU with a sub lol. Also kinda hilarious a KR fan is talking about overrating, whats DRX upto after disappointing in an Intl AGAIN?

wait for WGS brotha

https://www.vlr.gg/rankings

TheLastFlames [#59]

I don't really care, but when someone is as stupid as you, I gotta humble them. Talking shit about C9 being a LOUD fan. So yknow had to humble u by saying Optic 3-0d ur dogshit brazilean super team. "im not mad", yet u proceed to curse so much its sad and u just sound so mad the way u type. Must suck being a hardcore fan when ur team is ass. Any NA team violates ur region. EZ dubs. Stay mad shitter

Lmfao this dude really said "you curse so much 🤓" ok bro stay typing brainless posts on your room 10y kid kkkkkkkk, i literally proved you all wrong, If you cant accept it you should delete your account from how embarassing you are lol, its not hard to accept that c9 is not even close to being top 10 in the world, literally their best performance in this game was just winning against drx. Whatever

JustHunter [#25]

g2 got a lucky run, FNC, FPX, and M3C wouldve wiped masters honestly the level of play other than drx and optic were so low

https://youtu.be/XhWbbguR9c4?t=2415 derke disagree that FNC would have chance to win even with full roster in reykjavik

fadezis [#64]

i mean EMEA stage is already like international tournament, teams from eu, tr and cis regions are fighting each other

I agree that EMEA is one of if not the most competitive region, but FPX are still not LAN proven to me. I don't have any concerns with ANGE1, but some of the younger guys with less experience might not put up the same performance they did online in the qualifiers (like what happened with the guard)

andrewdamf [#67]

Lmfao this dude really said "you curse so much 🤓" ok bro stay typing brainless posts on your room 10y kid kkkkkkkk, i literally proved you all wrong, If you cant accept it you should delete your account from how embarassing you are lol, its not hard to accept that c9 is not even close to being top 10 in the world, literally their best performance in this game was just winning against drx. Whatever

Guess I have to prove this dumb braziliean wrong yet again smh. Optic is not a super team. First of all, FNS has been part of the team from the very beginning. He was always known as a good igl and been doing it for a while, but constantly everyone be making fun of FNS for his aim and kda. Then we got crashies who was a top 5 sova in NA, but he been trying different roles like viper. He has been a good player throughout his years on the team. Victor who was crashies duo since T1 days has been a good duelist, but he got switched to flex and has been playing it pretty well. Marved was added to the team since he was a good smoke player. Nobody thought marved would be a top 5 smoke player in the world at the time, but he played and played and just kept improving. Their last addition YAY is the only super player that everyone could have agreed upon before Optic won reykjavik. He been dropping 40+ during scrims back and forth and was really hyped up and lived up to the hype for the most part. 4 out of these 5 players have all just been good or above average and there was nothing super about them, but now with this roster they won reykjavik so people are calling them a super team from NA. They have good talent, but NA has better talent, its just Optic has a better vision for the game than others. However, ur LOUD has literally the best sova from BRazil, best Igl, best smoke, tied for the best jett along with Heat, and best sentinel player. And that team got clapped by an above average talented NA team with good structure. (U really made me type all this for no reason u delusional moron)

wizardbot [#56]

Team which gigastomps Optic roster 3-0 in Berlin Masters finals and places 2nd in the biggest Valorant tourney of the world in inconsistent ☠️☠️. They missed qualifying by such a small margin too

I said M3C is inconsistent. They missed qualifying by 0.02 seconds THEN they got 2-0'ed (13-8, 13-10) by G2. They got second in champs but had close games to Team Secret and Kru (both OT). Aka, a worse loud and a team that tied for last in Masters 1. They don't show up ever game. That's their inconsistentcy. Another example us at the start of EMEA groups : Nats wasn't there. At the end, Deffo wasn't there. If they are all there all the time, then they are easily top 4, But they aren't.