why did sen fall off

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guyphoe

why?

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cus bad

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stubborn

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lorenzopajaroFC

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It’s been a year already, it’s only natural, new teams appear that are just better it happens in every game

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what about fnatic? they were consistent throughout. they did not make it masters berlin coz i think the competition in EMEA is tough

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EMEA is a different breed lol. Laughing stock in EMEA like g2 and BBL are still good enough to finish top 8 or top 4 in international LANs with ease, even if two of those teams were the only representatives of EMEA.

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Fnatic havent been consistent if were being honest. Around the time before champs everybody saw them as a team in decline that only got in because of gambit winning masters. They definetely proved everybody wrong and have been great this year but there was a time where they werent even considered top 5 emea

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Fnatic went through a bit of slump tho, missed out on first Berlin

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too much ego

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VirajKnight

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Give an opinion to the boys and see how they gonna troll u on stream and twitter. xD. Too much arrogant.

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GLN321

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unexisting coaching staff and dont say Rawkus cuz we all knew that wasnt going to last

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AllMight

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No coach+ tenz can't perform anything except jett+ zombs is trash

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Just trash

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Look at the history of every game. The first best team is bound to fall off. SEN was good for a quite a long time but it's time for changes.

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DJwankstaaa

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This is excuses, envy/optic have been a top 3 team for a year+, failing to adapt is the reason and less practice is the reason why they are failing

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OpTic have had significant roster changes.

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DJwankstaaa

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Omg, it's like they want to win, how surprising, I'm talking about optic as an org, not the roster

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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But my point was about the original core, not the org. That's why I'm saying they need changes in the last part of my comment.

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what are u talking about optic is a new roster 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🙄🙄

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Optic have had roster changes. And haven't won anything yet

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in every fps games one team dominate the begining and never win a single thing after that , we saw it with nip in cs and also g2 in rainbow six , i dont think that roaster together will win a single thing again

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TSM's Apex Legends team might have something to say about that

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g2/penta in rainbow six dominated for around 3-4 years what are you on lol

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UnrivaleD

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its true they have 3 years of domination, my point was after the dominant period fell of they never win again , nip had almost 2 years aswell idk why you cant draw corelations LOL

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Yes, but dont you think 2 years is much higher than 6 months of domination? 2 years is enough to solidify absolute dominance, so after that i doubt anyone would doubt their credibility after such a long time even after falling off.

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UnrivaleD

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if you talking about sen you are kinda right its not even a dominance if you win one major , in that ill stand corrected , maybe a fluke is a better suiting words since they are na team lol

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justron40

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we call this a tsm phase

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alisammm

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bro

yes

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All the idiots are saying "because they're bad" don't make any sense, in every game teams fall off and newer teams rise and get stronger. Acend are the world champions and they didnt even make it past EMEA groups, i guess by that "any team that isn't performing well atm is bad" logic acend is bad too

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justron40

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it's because zeek have mental issue. it's different than LA ping excuse.

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LA ping was a mental thing bud

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justron40

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differentiate excuse with real issue. thank you.

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Zeek mental issue is an excuse for everyone's preformence?

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justron40

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in a way yes. look at 100T. -steel. is it the same 100T? No.

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it hurts, but it's true.

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justron40

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chemistry and synergy can only be achieved if the playstyle fits and also commitment to work hard to build it.

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UnrivaleD

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you think they arent bad losing 13-1 is what in your opinion?

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JvRwastaken

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So is acend bad because they lost 13-4 to guild?

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1mBor3d

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bro TG lost 13-2 against C9 what are you on?

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benignz

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yea cuz c9 is best team rn obv theyre gonna beat a team with significantly less experience than them

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UnrivaleD

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well team acend had a stand in lol , sen has been dogshit for a while now and you dont wanna call things by their names , they are bad rn whether you like it or not

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i dont think thats the only issue though, i dont like some of their decisions in terms of roles, not to mention kiles having the perhaps the worst stats of a t1 pro currently, although i can imagine how much that has to do with the ukraine stuff

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it's because they have the biggest egos on the planet and stopped putting in the hard work to win

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They are trying to be the new TSM.

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well, I'm just glad to see Sayaplayer shitting on people after shitty ass T1 wasted his potential by putting him on omen

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i don't find any reason to play double duelist on BIND map (only if sick had played SKYE ) .then results could have been mush better ...what r your opinions

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nematoma

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stopped reading after sick played skye

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Their attack side on bind seems to be pretty shit for a map they constantly pick. Theyre definetely going through some role crisis with chamber aswell. And yeah I think double duelist on bind is kinda meh in 2022 but sick is fine as raze. Maybe tenz should pick up chamber or sage

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tier 3 team
SEN washed

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Newvie

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souck a dick
tenz >> skrossii

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kristof

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wdym “fall off” ?
they were never good

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harriman

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They were the best team in the world during stage 2 last year

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StockfishZ

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Because trent is good

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YAYE

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it's called post-power syndrome: champion edition

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harriman

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They got complacent and never signed a coach

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100TBoeJiden

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Shazam called out jasonR and all went downhill. tier3 cs player is finally being exposed by the other players in the game, shaz deserves all the fall out. all about himself and always has been.

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Every top-tier team falls off if they don't make significant changes. They become so popular that everyone analyses their strats and players in-depth. Moreover, the pro scene depends more on teamwork and neat igl-ing than raw aim. Even low elos have cracked aim nowadays.

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Neoseki

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Teams in the VRL Polaris can run these guys over. Way too complacent. Don't feel like they need to change the composition but their attitudes,

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GLN321

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Okay thats a stretch man lol

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SMK_sss

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The team playing tournament without any strategies and time changes but their play style as same as before. They played look like a ranked game.

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MAHVEL

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They have a poor mentality as individuals and as a unit are not cohesive enough. They look like they dropped off levels from where they use to be. Would attribute that to a lack of drive, a lack of a real coach, among other things. I mean they said it themselves they didn't practice...says everything really, even if it was a troll.

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Typical NA cycle. Dominate game during it's infancy to only get rekt as time passes